new sub company

[mikeyboc 10+ year member]

Don't have money to hire people, it's pretty much a 1 man show. I'll be flying out there more then likely helping for a week or so.
Orders, tech support questions etc. Will be handled via email.

It's the same communication - and we can answer 10 emails in the time that we can take 1 phone call. The time saved from being on the phone can be used for building your woofers. We can do anything from explaining box designs, to answering tech/warranty issues if they come about via email. It's much more efficient for time being.

The problem with a 'hot chick' answering the phone is she likely doesnt know the answers to the vast majority of the questions she would be asked. Pricing sure..but that'l be on the website when you order your woofer. All prices will include shipping in the lower 48. Simple as that!

Eventually there will be a phone number, but for time being...and as long as possible we're going to try it this way.

Thanks for your concern!

What you are saying makes complete sense, please don't take any advice as a personal attack on you or your affiliation with the company. In my past experiences, customers do not understand or sometimes care about the efficiency and cost-cutting measures of a company. If it means no phone for more money invested in R&D, then that makes sense to the company, but not necessarily to the customer that wants to get ahold of a live person before spending hard earned $$$. Hey if you guys can pull it off, then more power to you.

One man show, huh?

 

[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

i was looking closer at this pic, and i notice that you guys try to cure the tinsel slaping against the cone by using some sort of fome or something, why not go with the spider woven tinsel leads if you have a that problem.

Foam/felt is cheaper than woven leads //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[shawnfleming 10+ year member]

Ok sorry guys, I havent been here in a couple days, I took a small vacation. For those that are concerned with Customer Support, there will be plenty. We are trying to keep overhead down for the fact that, if we do, you can get less expensive subwoofers. I have some errands to go run, if anyone has questions that I can answer, hit me up in PM or on AIM at xmx4shawn, if Im not around I will hit you up, when I get home.

 

[prochobo 10+ year member]

Ok sorry guys, I havent been here in a couple days, I took a small vacation. For those that are concerned with Customer Support, there will be plenty. We are trying to keep overhead down for the fact that, if we do, you can get less expensive subwoofers. I have some errands to go run, if anyone has questions that I can answer, hit me up in PM or on AIM at xmx4shawn, if Im not around I will hit you up, when I get home.

t/s parameters. now:furious: !

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Any demo's in the future?
I'd be interested, could write a full review //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

Good luck Nick.

nG

Psst... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

nG

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

What you are saying makes complete sense, please don't take any advice as a personal attack on you or your affiliation with the company. In my past experiences, customers do not understand or sometimes care about the efficiency and cost-cutting measures of a company. If it means no phone for more money invested in R&D, then that makes sense to the company, but not necessarily to the customer that wants to get ahold of a live person before spending hard earned $$$. Hey if you guys can pull it off, then more power to you.
One man show, huh?

I didnt take it as a personal attack //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Just expressing the way we view it.

Odds are the people who run into this company know who we are and the kind of products we have to offer.

We're not out to take over the whole market //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Just here to keep the best bang for the buck preformance that you can possibly get

 

[mikeyboc 10+ year member]

I didnt take it as a personal attack //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Just expressing the way we view it.
Odds are the people who run into this company know who we are and the kind of products we have to offer.

We're not out to take over the whole market //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Just here to keep the best bang for the buck preformance that you can possibly get

Guess I took your reply a little too personally, sorry about that. I have started a couple companies in the past that have been successful, and I have a passion for it. There are not many people that have the balls to take the step to do something they love doing. I commend you guys on trying to work this thing out, just thought I would toss in my .02. I was thinking on a bigger scale, and you guys are wanting to starting out small, just a difference in perception. Good luck with getting things going, I wish you the best.

PS - Get some F'ing phones! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[TreyE 10+ year member]

any new news??

 

[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

i can't wait to see the site //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Tempe 10+ year member]

i was looking closer at this pic, and i notice that you guys try to cure the tinsel slaping against the cone by using some sort of fome or something, why not go with the spider woven tinsel leads if you have a that problem.

Here is is the Dan Wiggins' explaination on the subject:

"I know some will discount this as "damage control", but the truth is we've had VERY few (like in the few percent) complaints about lead slap. It IS a rare occurance, and as Geolemon points out, really only happens (if it does happen) when you're pumping the sub really hard.

"We are looking at options to try to eliminate this, however. At this point, though, we've found VERY few subs that we can get to tap. It's a result of using a tinsel lead-in wire (even W7s can exhibit tap). At some frequency at high excursions, you will get the lead to tap the cone or spider. No two ways about it.

"Some have asked about woven tinsel leads. Yes, that is an option; however, the #1 failure mode for spiders is tearing along seams in the fabric (cross-corrugation lines of a different density of fabric). I know several LARGE (we're talking 4+ million woofers a year) build houses that will not use woven leads because of the issue of failure rate.

"Additionally, the use of woven leads limits your choices in spider fabrics and thicknesses. It is VERY hard to get a softer spider with woven leads. And in fact, the more stiffness in the spider you can control with phenolic versus fabric, the more progressive you can make your spider. Thus there is a tradeoff in terms of linear Kms force you can get when going to fabrics compatible with woven leads.

"As usual, there is ALWAYS a tradeoff, and IMHO woven leads at this time are too much of a tradeoff in terms of what they limit you to in spiders. Especially for a pretty rare occurance as lead tap (the fact that Ryno's Brahma was making noise even at low levels leads me to believe it's not lead slap, but some other issue). We are investigating alternatives, though, and when we come up with something, I will let people know."

Tempe

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

Fi Entry line T/S Parameters

10” Dual 4ohm Coil

FS: 25.9

RE: 3.9/coil

QMS: 3.9

QES: .35

QTS: .32

MMS: 110

CMS: 3.4

VAS: 45.7

SD: 310

SPL: 85.4

BL: 20

XMAX: 15

RMS: 300w

MAX: 500w

12” Dual 4ohm Coil

FS: 25.7

RE: 3.9/coil

QMS: 4

QES: .38

QTS: .35

MMS: 120

CMS: 3.2

VAS: 104

SD: 480

SPL: 88.6

BL: 20t/m

XMAX: 15mm

RMS: 300w

MAX: 500w

10” Single 4ohm Coil

FS: 26.8

RE: 3.9

QMS: 3.85

QES: .39

QTS: .35

MMS: 105

CMS: 3.3

VAS: 43.2

SD: 310

SPL: 85.4

BL: 13.2t/m

XMAX: 15mm

RMS: 300w

MAX: 500w

12” Single 4ohm Coil

FS: 26.5

RE: 3.9

QMS: 3.91

QES: .42

QTS: .38

MMS: 112

CMS: 3.3

VAS: 106.5

SD: 480

SPL: 88.4

BL: 13.2t/m

XMAX: 15mm

RMS: 300w

MAX: 500w

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

Fi Midline T/S Parameters

10” Dual 2ohm Coils

FS: 31.4

RE: 1.4/coil

QMS 4.62

QES 0.4

QTS 0.37

MMS 161

CMS 1.6

VAS 21.5

SD 310

SPL 84

BL 15

XMAX :19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

12” Dual 2ohm Coils

FS 30.4

RE 1.4/coil

QMS 4.88

QES 0.44

QTS 0.4

MMS 180

CMS 1.49

VAS 49

SD 480

SPL 86.8

BL 15

XMAX: 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

15” Dual 2ohm Coils

FS 28.8

RE 1.4/coil

QMS 5.01

QES 0.5

QTS 0.45

MMS 218

CMS 1.4

VAS 128.6

SD 810

SPL 89.7

BL 15

XMAX: 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

18” Dual 2ohm Coils

FS 30.2

RE 1.4/coil

QMS 5.59

QES 0.61

QTS 0.55

MMS 253

CMS 1.11

VAS 225.47

SD 1210

SPL 91.9

BL 15

XMAX: 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

10” Dual 1ohm Coils

FS 31.3

RE 0.7/coil

QMS 4.59

QES 0.42

QTS 0.39

MMS 157

CMS 1.65

VAS 22.2

SD 310

SPL 83.9

BL 10.1

XMAX 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

12” Dual 1ohm Coils

FS 31.1

RE 0.7/coil

QMS 4.87

QES 0.47

QTS 0.43

MMS 176

CMS 1.48

VAS 48.2

SD 480

SPL 86.7

BL 10.1

XMAX 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

15” Dual 1ohm Coils

FS 28.6

RE 0.7/coil

QMS 5.27

QES 0.53

QTS 0.48

MMS 215

CMS 1.42

VAS 132.3

SD 810

SPL 89.5

BL 10.1

XMAX 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

18” Dual 1ohm Coils

FS 30.2

RE 0.7/coil

QMS 5.85

QES 0.65

QTS 0.58

MMS 246

CMS 1.13

VAS 231.6

SD 1210

SPL 91.8

BL 10.1

XMAX 19

RMS 800

MAX 1200

All of these parameters for this series is with the round wire aluminum coil.

If using the flat wound aluminum coil option RMS is 1000 and MAX is 1500.

Thanks for looking!

 

[Tempe 10+ year member]

I want some *****!

(dustcap, that is!)

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

No offense to anyone, but I wouldn't know them from anyone else I come across. Their reputation could be extremely good, but that is not going to contribute to the validity of the company they represent. What happens when everyone that knows them buys their product, I think a vast majority of the remaining consumer population is not familiat with their reputation. Again, this is not to knock on anyone, because I don't know them and am in no place to pass jusdgement. All I am saying is that from a business standpoint, it is probably a good idea to have a direct source of communication with your customers where they can talk to a live person. Most start-up companies don't make it past 5 years, why contribute to the uphill battle by limiting customer service. I think the "no phone" policy may work, if there is never an issue with one of the products, but that is unlikely due to the possibility of human error. I, and many others, want to pick up the phone and get a problem resolved when it comes up, not wait on an email (that may or may not have been deleted).

I don't no Mr. Fleming personally. But I do know Mr. Nick, this man has had his hands in many a cookie jar with other companys helping develop products behind the scenes. Give them some time and I'm sure you will see good things from them. imagines nick whipping the oompa loompa's hollering mmhmmm more wooferage mmmhmmm //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[skeptikal Premium Member]

Little update
Here's a few pics of the midline 12" woofer

Will be posting t/s parameters and other information later on - hopefully tomorrow, i've got to get back to work on a turbo project.

Kinda looks like a 2nd gen mag, but good looking none the less.