New shit from JL Audio for 2007

[95volvosx 10+ year member]

agreed.

 

[Telegon80 10+ year member]

so the only argument you bring to the table is that its too expensive. who cares.

for those of us who dont care about money and can afford JL, what do you think about the Thin Line woofer.

 

[95volvosx 10+ year member]

well I'd have to hear one first but I don't doubt that they sound good. My assumption is they sound probably like the W3V3's.

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

for those of us who dont care about money and can afford JL, what do you think about the Thin Line woofer.

You dont care about money? In that case PM me and I will give you my Paypal. I'd like a free $200. and No one is argueing agianst JL here. We are saying it isnt worth it to us.

 

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

How do most of you guys say it's overpriced? I am 17 and have just about a full JL Audio setup and never has it broke my bank. No, I am no rich, spoiled kid. I Paid for everything. If it was THAT overpriced i would have never considered it. But i also like to sound good and not stupid loud.

do you have a mortgage, rent or bills??? :-(

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

so the only argument you bring to the table is that its too expensive. who cares.
for those of us who dont care about money and can afford JL, what do you think about the Thin Line woofer.

http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread.php?threadid=138887&pagenumber=3

I think the thin-line sub and midbass driver both look interesting.

 

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread.php?threadid=138887&pagenumber=3


I think the thin-line sub and midbass driver both look interesting.

$400.00-$500.00, I don't think so. You can get an EDSQ10 for $105.00 (was $55.00), there's a lot of good reviews on it.

 

[Boulderguy 10+ year member]

This is a bandwagon thing, isn't it? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

One thing I've noticed over the years about different companies - not just audio - is that some innovate while most duplicate.

Coming up with new ideas, new technology, new approaches is real work & it's risky. It takes dedicated staff & real funds. The payoff is products like the Ipod - not the cheapest MP3 player but easily the leader.

Others have an asian company reverse-engineer the technology & produce it cheaper.

I've no loyalty to JL but their track record speaks for itself. Products like the Stealthbox, the Cleansweep, and years of quality subs - these are innovations & they cost money.

I like the midbass driver too. I also think the slimmer subs & IB applications will become more comman.

 

[Demi 10+ year member]

Alright im not gonna wang on the price, because everything ive heard from JL rocks, and the point im about to make is a stupid one, but its one that honestly effects my buying habits. Someone said it earlier, JL dealers = *** hats. Ive never met a dealer that didnt try to lube me up and bend me over thinking that i had no idea what he was talking about, secondly every JL owner ive met seems to think that JLs are made from unicorn balls and pixie farts and that no other company ever could even come close to anything JL has now or will ever produce in the surviable course of human events. I know thats a stupid reason not to want to buy a companies product, even though they are fantastic, but it just left a bad taste in my mouth, and i think JL should be more picky with who represents them (dealers not consumers).

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Anything JL puts out will automatically be hailed as great by some people. *cough*

As far as the JL shalow mount vs the EDuh shallow mount...lets just say the eD is a knockoff of the TB...which is even cheaper.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Basically no one likes JL...

Kinda like no one likes you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

$400.00-$500.00, I don't think so. You can get an EDSQ10 for $105.00 (was $55.00), there's a lot of good reviews on it.

There are a lot of good reviews of Deawoo, but that doesn't mean it's inherently a better option than a higher priced automobile.

There might be "good reviews", but being cheaper and having "good reviews" doesn't automatically make them equals or mean the JL isn't worth a higher price.

 

[vpkb1998 10+ year member]

There are a lot of good reviews of Deawoo, but that doesn't mean it's inherently a better option than a higher priced automobile.
There might be "good reviews", but being cheaper and having "good reviews" doesn't automatically make them equals or mean the JL isn't worth a higher price.

i never said it's better, i only said it has good reviews for a lesser cost //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Because I have two 15's of equal magnitude to the w7 that have an MSRP total to that of a single 13w7 MSRP.

You are into loud. We know that you are. You have just made my point for me. Thank you.

I have a 1500w amp that has an MSRP of roughly half that of JL's inefficient 1000w amp.

Brax and Helix amps cost 2x that of the JLs but no one says they're overpriced. There's a difference between expensive and overpriced. One day you'll have enough life experience to know the difference.

I have a pair of Components that I paid less for than what JL's mid level co-ax's go for and they sound 100 times better than any JL passive set up I've heard.

How many really well installed and tuned JL setups have you heard? How many expertly installed and tuned setups using whatever equipment have you heard? A hack of an installer and/or tuner can make even the best speakers sound like trash.
That said, most of the salemen at JL dealers I have met in the last few years have been clowns. But I have the general opinion of most salesmen. Most only have a basic knowlege of what they are selling. If I need something though (last thing I did involving JL was a recone on 3 of my 10W6s that had been in a car wreck) I establish right up front that I know exactly what I want and/or need and they don't go for the ball-gag and handcuffs. At the same time the dealers are out to make money and JL is one of the hottest car audio products on the market for the last few years. In this respect JL supports them well because JL realized early on that lack of knowlege concerning their product and its use would lead to unhappy customers and bad WOM advertising. Those of you that have been around here know full well how you rarely hear about the many good experiences with a company, but if there is one bad one (even if it isn't the companies fault) it spreads like wildfire and instantly the company has a bad rep. As such JL goes to great lengths to make sure that their dealer network is up to speed on how to best use their product. I know that they used to have a huge manual that the installer got that listed enclosure specs for every driver that they made. Not just one enclosure but many, so the installer could tailor the sub response to the customer and the vehicle. Also included was a mechanical power rating for each particular setup. I don't know of another company that supports their dealer network nearly as well as JL does.

In most markets, JL is as high-end as you will find. I'm in Vegas, a fairly large and still growing market and there are no dealers for the overwhelming majority of companies that I would place above JL in terms of quality. As such, you have to expect a lot of the product to be out there. People got money, they want the best they can get locally because they have no clue how to install it themselves, you get the picture. You also have to figure that for every educated consumer in the realm of car audio there are probably 200 that are totally clueless. Of those that are clueless, odds are that several of those will fall into the obnoxious idiot category that will brag about whatever gear they happen to have insisting that "It's the best eva, yo!" If you guage the quality of a product solely on the quality of the "obnoxious ***-clown" segment of users, then all products **** cause every one of them has end users that fall into that category.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

I just don't want it, and I drive a woody wagon, so yeah, I kinda like being a little different.






Okay, I'm ****ing weird, leave me alone.

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