new 5kwrms adassa sub *pic*

[adassa audio 10+ year member]

ok guys this is the T/S for the ADA-Q154 sub

T/S params //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifChrome 4 spoke.....

I dont like scratched up baskets

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

anyways there are alot of subs out there that can handle 5k easily for a burp and beyond. ever see the NEW 10k ma audio sub??? obviously not.

n00bx.

There is a difference between 5kw for 3sec with in 2-3Hz of tuning and running 5kw RMS for music...

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

n00bx.
There is a difference between 5kw for 3sec with in 2-3Hz of tuning and running 5kw RMS for music...

It's kind of funny watching him get all butt-hurt though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Doesn't look like that woofer would do too well for daily driving with music.

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

Nope, mighty high Fs.

Probably wont like dancing below 35Hz. Thoes are some shitty reccomendations for enclosures too. My HT Left and Right channels have lower tuning.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

it is an SPL sub. nobody ever said it was a daily sub. how many fckin daily subs do u know that will do 5k all the time???? none. would melt any voic coil. the sub is made for SPL applications.

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

quite honestly.. that 5kw RMS spec is very misleading... if it is indeed an SPL burp woofer...

under industry accepted standards of establishing RMS power.. 5kw is a pipe dream...

test it out via IEC 268-5, and get back to me on that RMS spec //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

or you can try it via EIA Standard RS-426A I think it is..

Loyd L.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

Sir, You need to factor in the "DAF"

Or..in lay terms, the Dumb @ss Factor.

Remember...if you say that woofer is going to take 5kw rms, then these kids are going to do it, and you'll be eating 95% returns and warranty out the rear.

Might want to reconsider that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

it is an SPL sub. nobody ever said it was a daily sub. how many fckin daily subs do u know that will do 5k all the time???? none. would melt any voic coil. the sub is made for SPL applications.

Then why even give it an RMS power handling value? RMS indicates continuous power handling. RMS does not mean "you might be able to give it this much for 3 seconds...". If it can only handle 5kw for burps, then that is not it's RMS (continuous) power handling. Not even close.

And why give enclosure recommendations if it's an SPL only sub? How many serious SPL competitors do you know that would abide by, or even give momentary consideration to, a cookie-cutter enclosure?

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

Then why even give it an RMS power handling value? RMS indicates continuous power handling. RMS does not mean "you might be able to give it this much for 3 seconds...". If it can only handle 5kw for burps, then that is not it's RMS (continuous) power handling. Not even close.
And why give enclosure recommendations if it's an SPL only sub? How many serious SPL competitors do you know that would abide by, or even give momentary consideration to, a cookie-cutter enclosure?

first off the company who makes the subs give an RMS so thats why an RMS is given with the information with the sub. Same goes for the enclosure specs. it was given specs because thats what the factory gives. adassa doesnt personally build these subwoofers by hand.

if ud ever think outside the box and not just join a forum to bash products u might understand. u know when something is released its specs and everything are given by the factory not by the company distributing it. and how can someone comment on something that has never been seen or heard??

but im not sayin it will or wont do it. im just sayin that u cant judge a book by its cover.

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

I'm not bashing... I'm just telling you, and anybody else.. that 5kw RMS through a 3" od coil, regardless of layers, with a 54mm'ish winding length is impossible..

per the standards I posted above.. won't happen..

I doubt very seriously, if that woofer came from where I think it did.. the designer would tell anyone 5kw RMS...

last time I checked the specs on that total coil was 1250 RMS.. which if somebody mistook that as per separate winding... gives you 5000 watts RMS

Loyd L.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

well DD has a 3" coil and u can put 5k through it??? so i dont see the problem

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

well DD has a 3" coil and u can put 5k through it??? so i dont see the problem

http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=9500f

read their rating..

1500 watts continous power

you don't grasp the concept of what an RMS spec entails...

DD does... most other companies do....

5000 watts for peak or burp power.. I can see that..

DD woofers do fine with short bursts of 5-6 kw... not RMS, under the standards of the industry... which is why they have the CORRECT continous power of 1500 watts for the 9515...

Loyd L.

 

[2000LaDe 10+ year member]

ok say u think u know where its from. these 2 adassa subs are both made from the same place. take ur guess. cuz im quite sure u dont know where its from.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

omfg pwnage by loyd

If thats an straight SPL sub, then why the vented pole peice?

Also isnt addassa audio the same people who got totally pwnt on the mecasucks.com forum when they came on there and told everyone they built their spl vehicle when in all actuality they bought it from some guy? Also didnt that SPL vehicle get quieter AFTER addassa bought the car and started "tweaking" it ?

http://www.mecasucks.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1140706934/15

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

first off the company who makes the subs give an RMS so thats why an RMS is given with the information with the sub.

Then I would question the build house as to why they gave the subwoofer an RMS power handling rating which it obviously can not sustain.

Same goes for the enclosure specs. it was given specs because thats what the factory gives.

Just because the build house gives you information, you don't have to release the information //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

If this subwoofer were intended for SPL applications only, then it's useless.

adassa doesnt personally build these subwoofers by hand.

But they should surely test them, I'd assume. In which case, they would be aware that the subwoofer can not handle 5kw continuously //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/idea.gif.5acb6a39a9b92425414c316dda202bad.gif Which would mean they are knowingly giving misleading and inaccurate information to the consumer.

if ud ever think outside the box and not just join a forum to bash products u might understand.

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And if you would not just join a forum just to get all butt hurt about a product, you might understand.

u know when something is released its specs and everything are given by the factory not by the company distributing it.

And the company distributing it doesn't have the ability to test the specs and decide whether or not they are accurate? Which 5kw RMS obviously is not. The buildhouse might "rate" the product one way (which I can not see any buildhouse labeling that subwoofer as 5kw RMS), that doesn't mean the company selling the product must use the exact same specifications. They should know enough about their own product (produced with their name on it to their specifications, even if they didn't hand build it) whether or not certain measurements are accurate.

and how can someone comment on something that has never been seen or heard??
but im not sayin it will or wont do it. im just sayin that u cant judge a book by its cover.

Because speakers behave according to certain laws of physics, which allows performance to be predicted with relative accuracy based on certain parameters and overall design //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/idea.gif.5acb6a39a9b92425414c316dda202bad.gif