Mid-Bass Lacking In GERMS

[tukn18s 10+ year member]

yes but i still need to set my hpf at a frequency, and it will affect how the sound is reproduced.

 

[AVSTANG02]

Another thing are u sure you are not expecting too much?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

yes but i still need to set my hpf at a frequency, and it will affect how the sound is reproduced.

try it out man. thats what car audio tweaking is all about, trial and error.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

Alright I am slightly a noob. I have the speakers wired with the biamping inputs. The tweeters are running off of the front channels, and the mids, off of the rear. Both filters are on the HPF, 60 hz.

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this. This is your problem. Turn off the HP xover to your mids (rear channels I'm assuming, correct?). You are killing any midbass signal before it even gets a chance to get to your mids.

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

+6...wtf? I'd never do that. My germs run completely flat on my h/u and they sound **** good, even though they are only getting 120 per side.

Well my AA's are only getting 60 per side //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif And actually I've backed it down to +5 as I checked at lunch today. I mostly listen to 80's rock/metal and that's where they sound the best. Drums have MAJOR impact and that's how I like it...

 

[tukn18s 10+ year member]

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this. This is your problem. Turn off the HP xover to your mids (rear channels I'm assuming, correct?). You are killing any midbass signal before it even gets a chance to get to your mids.

well Ill be ****ed lol I will do that for sure, should i set a LPF? or just have it off?

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

well Ill be ****ed lol I will do that for sure, should i set a LPF? or just have it off?

Just turn it off. The xovers will take car of the LP xover for you, it'll be a higher freq. than the amp can most likely take care of anyways. Might as well turn both off, in reality, as somebody mentioned before, the passive xover is all you need, but the HP to the tweeters isn't necessarily going to hurt anything.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Yep, I say just turn off the amp crossovers. The passives will take care of you.

 

[tukn18s 10+ year member]

hm Ill have to give it a try tomorrow. I just now got everything buttoned back up as far as door panels and such. Its a pain but its worth it in the long run.

 

[BlackMaxima 10+ year member]

you got the germ from Don right??

you should talk to him about it

 

[envengineer 10+ year member]

If none of the above suggestions work, switch the phase on the passenger side woofer. The midbass will either drop off or increase dramatically. If it helps, keep it that way, if not, switch it back.

 

[WantedIsHere]

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this. This is your problem. Turn off the HP xover to your mids (rear channels I'm assuming, correct?). You are killing any midbass signal before it even gets a chance to get to your mids.

i caught it and told him to not use xovers on his amp already on the first page... dood doesnt understand tho....

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

maybe they should be tested in another car...hmm... perhaps you could send them to me so i could...indefinitely borrow them?

 

[headless 10+ year member]

The passive crossovers that come with the Germaniums do two things

(a) They high pass the tweeters (@ 2.2 or 2.6khz)

(b) They low pass the woofers. (@ 2.2 or 2.6khz)

What they do not do is high pass the woofers. While you can run the germaniums full range without any high pass crossover, i would not push the volume too extremely with that setting...a 6.5 inch driver simply gets jacked when you start trying to tell it to play 20hz to 2500hz. 63hz/18db is probably fine, and i ran mine @ 80hz/12db high pass. I eq'd up slightly on my (ghetto *** un-deadened and no baffle) install at 120hz and 200hz. I don't think the highpass x-over @ 60hz is the problem. Midbass is at least 80hz+...all the way up to ~200-250hz. Unless your high pass crossover is something extremely shallow like 6db, it should simply be doing what you want - cutting out bass so your sub can play that while your 6.5's play midbass and midrange. I've played my set without any subwoofer for a while and they produce a surprising amount of volume @ 60-100hz considering their size... they merge very well with my 12w6 (poor 12w6.)

 

[tukn18s 10+ year member]

thanks