ahole-ic
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So then the batteries never discharge!! You're a genius!!!
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SicAudio
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did you fart dude?
Insufficient Charging Output
If one of the three stator windings failed, the alternator would still charge, but only at two thirds of its normal output. Since an alternator is designed to handle all the power that is needed under heavy load conditions, you may never know that there is a problem with the unit. It might only become apparent on a dark, cold rainy night when the lights, heater, windshield wipers and possible the seat heaters and rear defroster are all on at once that you may notice the lights start to dim as you slow down. If two sets of windings failed, you will probably notice it a lot sooner
It is more common for one or more of the six diodes in the rectifier to fail. If a diode burns out and opens one of the circuits, you would see the same problem as if one of the windings had failed. The alternator will run at a reduced output. However, if one of the diodes were to short out and allow current to pass in either direction, other problems will occur. A shorted diode will allow AC current to pass through to the automobile's electrical system which can cause problems with the computerized sensors and processors. This condition can cause the car to act unpredictably and cause all kinds of problems
If one of the three stator windings failed, the alternator would still charge, but only at two thirds of its normal output. Since an alternator is designed to handle all the power that is needed under heavy load conditions, you may never know that there is a problem with the unit. It might only become apparent on a dark, cold rainy night when the lights, heater, windshield wipers and possible the seat heaters and rear defroster are all on at once that you may notice the lights start to dim as you slow down. If two sets of windings failed, you will probably notice it a lot sooner
It is more common for one or more of the six diodes in the rectifier to fail. If a diode burns out and opens one of the circuits, you would see the same problem as if one of the windings had failed. The alternator will run at a reduced output. However, if one of the diodes were to short out and allow current to pass in either direction, other problems will occur. A shorted diode will allow AC current to pass through to the automobile's electrical system which can cause problems with the computerized sensors and processors. This condition can cause the car to act unpredictably and cause all kinds of problems
ahole-ic
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We are not talking about alternator failure. We're talking about overcurrent protection.... which the regulator handles.
SicAudio
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did you fart dude?
as always you take everything against your opinion way out of context then have the nerve to put words in peoples mouths...
ahole-ic
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No you said that the voltage doesn't drop. If it doesn't drop, then the batteries would never be able to supply current to the amplifiers in this case since all current is drawn from the highest source of potential which would always be the alt in your fantasy world.
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your source was wikipedia? lol
SicAudio
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did you fart dude?
you are more than likely correct in how a regulator works in regards to "YOUR" field but this is car electronics 101:
The Voltage Regulator
The voltage regulator can be mounted inside or outside of the alternator housing. If the regulator is mounted outside (common on some Ford products) there will be a wiring harness connecting it to the alternator.
The voltage regulator controls the field current applied to the spinning rotor inside the alternator. When there is no current applied to the field, there is no voltage produced from the alternator. When voltage drops below 13.5 volts, the regulator will apply current to the field and the alternator will start charging. When the voltage exceeds 14.5 volts, the regulator will stop supplying voltage to the field and the alternator will stop charging. This is how voltage output from the alternator is regulated. Amperage or current is regulated by the state of charge of the battery. When the battery is weak, the electromotive force (voltage) is not strong enough to hold back the current from the alternator trying to recharge the battery. As the battery reaches a state of full charge, the electromotive force becomes strong enough to oppose the current flow from the alternator, the amperage output from the alternator will drop to close to zero, while the voltage will remain at 13.5 to 14.5. When more electrical power is used, the electromotive force will reduce and alternator amperage will increase. It is extremely important that when alternator efficiency is checked, both voltage and amperage outputs are checked. Each alternator has a rated amperage output depending on the electrical requirements of the vehicle.
The Voltage Regulator
The voltage regulator can be mounted inside or outside of the alternator housing. If the regulator is mounted outside (common on some Ford products) there will be a wiring harness connecting it to the alternator.
The voltage regulator controls the field current applied to the spinning rotor inside the alternator. When there is no current applied to the field, there is no voltage produced from the alternator. When voltage drops below 13.5 volts, the regulator will apply current to the field and the alternator will start charging. When the voltage exceeds 14.5 volts, the regulator will stop supplying voltage to the field and the alternator will stop charging. This is how voltage output from the alternator is regulated. Amperage or current is regulated by the state of charge of the battery. When the battery is weak, the electromotive force (voltage) is not strong enough to hold back the current from the alternator trying to recharge the battery. As the battery reaches a state of full charge, the electromotive force becomes strong enough to oppose the current flow from the alternator, the amperage output from the alternator will drop to close to zero, while the voltage will remain at 13.5 to 14.5. When more electrical power is used, the electromotive force will reduce and alternator amperage will increase. It is extremely important that when alternator efficiency is checked, both voltage and amperage outputs are checked. Each alternator has a rated amperage output depending on the electrical requirements of the vehicle.
ahole-ic
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I provided proof. I'm not sure what you're even arguing with right now. Your source didn't even deny what I'm saying. It just didn't include it... Mine did.
SicAudio
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did you fart dude?
I said the voltage doesn't drop like "YOU" think it does.. not that it doesn't drop period... again words in my mouth out of context that I never said...
and go back and look you said the alt was the highest potential not me....
proven wrong again and again and still won't give any facts that relate to a car...
like I said. in your field you are prolly right , but cars are not the same nor are the components or the way they work...
SicAudio
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I saw no reference at all to 12 volt car alternators in the wiki info you posted //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif ....alot to do with commercial electricity ect... but nothing automotive at all...
ahole-ic
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My field is car audio so yes, it does apply to my field and it proves you wrong. NOWHERE does it say this is all a regulator does. More food for thought since you don't believe the article that disproved you already, what do we call something that increases something? It's an amplifier right? If the regulator's ONLY purpose is to increase the voltage why isn't it called an amplifier? We have terms like reducer and shunt for reducing.... and regulator means it can adjust up and down. Again this is all common sense, but you're obviously not that bright. You've now ignored logic AND a source with facts that prove you wrong. You need to let your stubborn pride go. You have been tried, tested, and been found wanting.
SicAudio
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which is written by anyone that wants to write it.....
ahole-ic
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What about the top of the article that says this: "In automobile alternators and central power station generator plants, voltage regulators control the output of the plant."
ahole-ic
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first you said it wasn't true and there was nothing to support my claim. I googled and clicked the first result and proved you wrong. Now you're attacking my source. Lol give up you idiots. You're just plain wrong.
ahole-ic
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I've proved you wrong... but you have yet to even come close to proving me wrong. All you've done is show your lack of intelligence.
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