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the system takes power from the highest voltage source (alt) until the current demand is higher than it can supply, a draw is then placed on the reserves (batt) to supply the needed power to the loads.
Exactly but you left out 1 key thing. When the alternator cannot provide any more current, it's regulator drops the voltage to protect the diodes. Since the voltage and current stay proportional, dropping the voltage drops the amount of current that can be drawn from the alternator. Once this voltage drops to the battery voltage, then the battery begins discharging as well.

 
the system takes power from the highest voltage source (alt) until the current demand is higher than it can supply, a draw is then placed on the reserves (batt) to supply the needed power to the loads.
exactly...

you will also notice I said "potential" in quotes...in the original post...

 
Exactly but you left out 1 key thing. When the alternator cannot provide any more current, it's regulator drops the voltage to protect the diodes. Since the voltage and current stay proportional, dropping the voltage drops the amount of current that can be drawn from the alternator. Once this voltage drops to the battery voltage, then the battery begins discharging as well.
really? never heard that before...just the opposite in fact...the regulator controls it from overvolting..the diodes filter out the AC ...

 
really? never heard that before...just the opposite in fact...the regulator controls it from overvolting..the diodes filter out the AC ...
The regulator does just that. It regulates the voltage and yes the diodes rectify the current from AC to dc but they have a limit on the amount of current that can pass through them.

 
because you were quoting me. Meaning you had no idea that potential meant voltage. Your subsequent posts reflect that fact as well. Obvious fail is obvious.
no it was because I was " quoting " you...

power is current/amps and potential is voltage ... I do know that I just rarely need to speak about in my day to day life ...so I made a simple wording mistake it doesn't change the fact that i was right.. he needs more reserve not more generation...

 
no it was because I was " quoting " you...
power is current/amps and potential is voltage ... I do know that I just rarely need to speak about in my day to day life ...so I made a simple wording mistake it doesn't change the fact that i was right.. he needs more reserve not more generation...
How is that right? Lol it will never make sense no matter how many times you say it. The only way people like you get away with it is duty cycle. If you played songs with heavy bass throughout with a little clip, your batts would never last because they aren't charging enough. Supply is ALWAYS the answer if it's an option. When it's not an option, you get reserve and reduce your duty cycle. For SUSTAINED play, supply is where it's at. The answer is ALWAYS supply. You simply can't argue that.

 
no it was because I was " quoting " you...
power is current/amps and potential is voltage ... I do know that I just rarely need to speak about in my day to day life ...so I made a simple wording mistake it doesn't change the fact that i was right.. he needs more reserve not more generation...
this.. .. its gotten way too technical. anyone that has done installs knows this guy needs a big solid batt or perhaps a backup but i doubt it. who gives a **** about cathodes and diodes.. ****

 
i googled what you said in case I have been wrong all my life as an ASE tech and didn't find anything that supports your statement..

i found the opposite..

modern automobile has a 12 volt electrical system. A fully charged battery will read about 12.5 volts when the engine is not running. When the engine is running, the charging system takes over so that the voltmeter will read 14 to 14.5 volts and should stay there unless there is a heavy load on the electrical system such as wipers, lights, heater and rear defogger all operating together while the engine is idling at which time the voltage may drop. If the voltage drops below 12.5, it means that the battery is providing some of the current. You may notice that your dash lights dim at this point. If this happens for an extended period, the battery will run down and may not have enough of a charge to start the car after shutting it off. This should never happen with a healthy charging system because as soon as you step on the gas, the charging system will recharge the battery. If the voltage is constantly below 14 volts, you should have the system checked. If the voltage ever goes above 15 volts, there is a problem with the voltage regulator. Have the system checked as soon as possible as this "overcharging" condition can cause damage to your electrical system.

If you think of electricity as water, voltage is like water pressure, whereas amperage is like the volume of water. If you increase pressure, then more water will flow through a given size pipe, but if you increase the size of the pipe, more water will flow at a lower pressure. An ammeter will read from a negative amperage when the battery is providing most of the current thereby depleting itself, to a positive amperage if most of the current is coming from the charging system. If the battery is fully charged and there is minimal electrical demand, then the ammeter should read close to zero, but should always be on the positive side of zero. It is normal for the ammeter to read a high positive amperage in order to recharge the battery after starting, but it should taper off in a few minutes. If it continues to read more than 10 or 20 amps even though the lights, wipers and other electrical devices are turned off, you may have a weak battery and should have it checked.

What can go wrong?

There are a number of things that can go wrong with a charging system:

Insufficient Charging Output

If one of the three stator windings failed, the alternator would still charge, but only at two thirds of its normal output. Since an alternator is designed to handle all the power that is needed under heavy load conditions, you may never know that there is a problem with the unit. It might only become apparent on a dark, cold rainy night when the lights, heater, windshield wipers and possible the seat heaters and rear defroster are all on at once that you may notice the lights start to dim as you slow down. If two sets of windings failed, you will probably notice it a lot sooner

It is more common for one or more of the six diodes in the rectifier to fail. If a diode burns out and opens one of the circuits, you would see the same problem as if one of the windings had failed. The alternator will run at a reduced output. However, if one of the diodes were to short out and allow current to pass in either direction, other problems will occur. A shorted diode will allow AC current to pass through to the automobile's electrical system which can cause problems with the computerized sensors and processors. This condition can cause the car to act unpredictably and cause all kinds of problems.

Too much voltage

A voltage regulator is designed to limit the voltage output of an alternator to 14.5 volts or less to protect the vehicle's electrical system. If the regulator malfunctions and allows uncontrolled voltage to be released, you will see bulbs and other electrical components begin to fail. This is a dangerous and potentially costly problem. Fortunately, this type of failure is very rare. Most failures cause a reduction of voltage or amperage.

thats just 1... out of 30 or so pages they all say the same thing... an alternators regulator doesn't control low voltage only high voltage...

can you show me where it says it differently please?

 
this.. .. its gotten way too technical. anyone that has done installs knows this guy needs a big solid batt or perhaps a backup but i doubt it. who gives a **** about cathodes and diodes.. ****
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not important. Pay attention and you'll learn something. A battery can't stop dimming and your amp loses efficiency at 12v. It's more efficient at 14v and it will give you more power.

 
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not important. Pay attention and you'll learn something. A battery can't stop dimming and your amp loses efficiency at 12v. It's more efficient at 14v and it will give you more power.
Really. how is that possible?? im learning soo much. teach me more..

 
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