If Christ is the answer, what was the question?

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

you are? Read the book "40 reasons to believe in creation" Its 40 different papers done by scientists on why evolution can't happen.

That was post #99 of this thread. You're part of evolution whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

Understand that Charles Darwin was a dude who watched things change in the natural environment.....God's environment.... not a leader of some cult with a bunch of pagan rituals disguised as "good" things to do to get to some mythical place in the sky.

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

So moses and mohammad and all the other prophets are practically irrelevant? How are they not God in the same sense? I see what you're getting at, but again, God sent several prophets before Jesus, and one after, what makes Jesus so special, other than the fact that YOU were raised believing he is.
Jesus was a man, a man with a message from God. God created miracles for him to help convince people of his message, as he did every other prophet.

The fact that he was born of a virgin, doesn't not infer that God 'was the father' of that child, in any other sense than in saying we are ALL his sons.

all the other prophets are not irrelevant at all. You have to look at the ONE major difference between all of their lives. Jesus never sinned, all other prophets either doubted or turned away from God at one point or another, and he did this on purpose to make an example out of them.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

well it's obvious that every organism in the world evolved from one big bang.
I mean obviously, come on, all these things that are so complex and look like they were handcrafted by someone who is far beyond us?

Psht, idiot. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/gapgod.htm

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

So moses and mohammad and all the other prophets are practically irrelevant? How are they not God in the same sense? I see what you're getting at, but again, God sent several prophets before Jesus, and one after, what makes Jesus so special, other than the fact that YOU were raised believing he is.
Jesus was a man, a man with a message from God. God created miracles for him to help convince people of his message, as he did every other prophet.

The fact that he was born of a virgin, doesn't not infer that God 'was the father' of that child, in any other sense than in saying we are ALL his sons.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif I believe in God, the same God you do, and the same prophets you do (should at least...)

Islamic based salvation teaches you that the only way you truly CANNOT be forgiven by God is if you choose not to believe in him. But he is forgiving, reasonable, and all-knowing.

Truly believing in God is by far the most important thing, and the things you do in your life will be judged by him fairly and reasonably and forgivingly when your day comes. And once again, he sees your intentions, not necessarily the act you put on for other people.

The Bible teaches that Jesus was not merely a prophet, but part of the TRIUNE God, (father, son, holyspirit) that is why I do not hold Old Testament prophets in the same regaurd, Old testament prophets, prophesied about the coming messiah. Read Is.53, and tell me that is not a prophecy to Christ.

 

[DownSouth954 10+ year member]

Haha Behe... The outcast of the scientific community.



Ken Miller disproves Intelligent Design aka Creationism in 2 hours. And he's a devout Roman Catholic...

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

LOL, how is it random? it took millions of years to evolve and adapt to the climate
Hot and cold is all relative

Big Bang - Says it happend at a random event.

Im talking about the distence from the sun, that DOES NOT evolve.

Hot and Cold is not what I am talking about.

I'm talking about a desolate flash fried planet, or a desolate Iced over planet.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

http://fora.tv/2007/07/04/Clash_Between_Faith_and_Reason

http://fora.tv/2005/12/09/View_From_End_Of_World

anyone whos subscribes to any specific religious doctrine needs to read sam harris:

http://www.amazon.com/End-Faith-Religion-Terror-Future/dp/0393327655/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223354654&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Letter-Christian-Nation-Vintage-Harris/dp/0307278778/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223354654&sr=8-2

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[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Then prove me wrong. Explain to me how survival of the fittest and natural selection explains the Bombardier Beetle's defense mechanism.

Evolution is IMPOSSIBLE without reproduction.

The Catholic Church could not have grown to the world's largest corporation (yes, it's a corporation...look up the definition)...without their ideas evolving like viruses in the minds of the people that carry, replicate and pass on them to their friends, children and community. Study the science of memetics. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

Haha Behe... The outcast of the scientific community.

beat you to it

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

Haha Behe... The outcast of the scientific community.

I don't claim to be a genius on this topic, and Behe is merely "outcasted" because of what he claims as the intelligent designer, it's real science, you cannot argue that. By definition, it is.

 

[Scoobydoo 5,000+ posts]

Big Bang - Says it happend at a random event.Im talking about the distence from the sun, that DOES NOT evolve.

Hot and Cold is not what I am talking about.

I'm talking about a desolate flash fried planet, or a desolate Iced over planet.

If we were the only planet like this then I would say it would be hard to understand, but there is no way there are not more "earths" out there imo

Honestly though, I dont discuss politics or religion. I dont vote or go to church and politicians and god can both kiss my ***

Good luck

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

If we were the only planet like this then I would say it would be hard to understand, but there is no way there are not more "earths" out there imo
Honestly though, I dont discuss politics or religion. I dont vote or go to church and politicians and god can both kiss my ***

Good luck

your time will come

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

I don't claim that microevolution does not happen, i do not believe that macro evolution takes place.

Also, There are many leaps and bounds that have yet to take place in the argument of ID vs. Evolution.

There are things that have to be reconciled with. There are.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

The Bible teaches that Jesus was not merely a prophet, but part of the TRIUNE God, (father, son, holyspirit)

You DO realize that has been repeated over and over from one religion to the next, with the origins in astrology, for thousands of years, don't you?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

It's fine you point that out, but if you try to claim superiority of those ideas, you're a fool. Sorry.

 

[BobbyDD 10+ year member]

Someday everyone will bow down and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.