I could use some help with my setup

[HoleshotzPerf]

I'm a new member here and I have a 2004 Ford F250 King Ranch crew cab and over the past few months, I have been messing around with various aftermarket audio components to try and get some decent sound out of it.

A few months back, I put a system together that consisted of 4 6x8 Kenwood 3 way's, a 5 channel Infinity Reference amp, Kenwood eXcelon 12" shallow mount in a custom box mounted behind the rear seat and a Clarion MAX685BT. I had this setup for a few months but the bass always sounded shallow and was lacking, the speakers also did not really give me what I was looking for. I realize the sub channel on the Infinity is only 150 watts RMS and the eXcelon is a 400 watt RMS sub but it was my first time dealing with car audio and I bought all this stuff based on someone else s advice and I did have it professionally tuned.

A few weeks ago, I found a buyer for all the audio stuff in my truck and decided to re-do everything. This time around, I went with 5x7 Kappa components in the front, 5x7 Kappa 2-ways in the back, a Fosgate P3 12" shallow mount and a Boston Acoustics GT50 amp. I have everything running at 2 ohms and it sounds WAY better then the first setup but I still think its lacking.

I am not going for crazy sound here with bass that's gonna rattle the truck apart, I just want it sounding clean, crisp and clear with a nice sub channel that hits deep and hard. I realize I'm somewhat limited with the space as well. I don't really have a problem spending money either as long as I'm happy with the end result.

I have learned the most on any topic that I needed info about on forums, I should have came here in the first place.

Sorry for the long post and thanks for the help.

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[LITTLE]

What's ur budget?

 

[HoleshotzPerf]

What's ur budget?

Well,

On the 2nd go around, I ordered the new speakers, sub and amp from Crutchfield for a little under $900, I spent $600 on the Clarion, $150 on the box and another $150 on all the wires.

I would say 1.5k tops assuming I do not replace the head unit.

 

[Enellz 10+ year member]

Well,
On the 2nd go around, I ordered the new speakers, sub and amp from Crutchfield for a little under $900, I spent $600 on the Clarion, $150 on the box and another $150 on all the wires.

I would say 1.5k tops assuming I do not replace the head unit.

D*mn good budget. You could get a nice setup for that much.

 

[LITTLE]

Well crutchfield has great customer service their prices ****. So ur trying to replace everything except the hu? Do you have to have shallow mount subs? What do you like better 10's or 12's?

 

[HoleshotzPerf]

Well crutchfield has great customer service their prices ****. So ur trying to replace everything except the hu? Do you have to have shallow mount subs? What do you like better 10's or 12's?

I realize that their prices are very steep, I could have saved about $200 - $300 ordering elsewhere but I figured they have a good return policy so I could always send it back if it didn't work out plus for some reason they are giving away the GT50 at $250 bucks, I thought that was a steel.

I will replace/keep whatever I need to in order to get the sound that I want out of it. I have never really dealt with car audio before so the only sub experience I have is with the 12" eXcelon and the 12" fosgate. Yes, the sub's have to be shallow mounts. I prob do have room to fit 2 10's back there but I would have to get another custom box made.

I am very open to all suggestions.

 

[LITTLE]

http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/12w6v2.aspx. Are u sure u don't have room for 2 of these. They'd be perfect. They only require about 1.25 cubic ft. Per sub.

 

[HoleshotzPerf]

http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/12w6v2.aspx. Are u sure u don't have room for 2 of these. They'd be perfect. They only require about 1.25 cubic ft. Per sub.

No way, I have just enough mounting depth for the shallow mount.

 

[anj46907 10+ year member]

I realize that their prices are very steep, I could have saved about $200 - $300 ordering elsewhere but I figured they have a good return policy so I could always send it back if it didn't work out plus for some reason they are giving away the GT50 at $250 bucks, I thought that was a steel.
I will replace/keep whatever I need to in order to get the sound that I want out of it. I have never really dealt with car audio before so the only sub experience I have is with the 12" eXcelon and the 12" fosgate. Yes, the sub's have to be shallow mounts. I prob do have room to fit 2 10's back there but I would have to get another custom box made.

I am very open to all suggestions.

kicker makes a shallow mount sub, and kicker is always good for delivering some nice bass at reaonable prices

check out this sub

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8584_Kicker+CompVT+07CVT122.html

and this amp

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6596_Kicker+ZX400.1.html

 

[anj46907 10+ year member]

http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/12w6v2.aspx. Are u sure u don't have room for 2 of these. They'd be perfect. They only require about 1.25 cubic ft. Per sub.

dude there is no way a w6 will fit for a shallow mount:wow://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif:wow://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif:wow: he said a nice punch not bass that will rattle his car apart. two w6 will rattle the car apart

 

[Enellz 10+ year member]

That sucks it has to be shallow mount. If you could I would get one strong ten and go with that.

 

[LITTLE]

I realize that the 12" jl's weren't the best suggestion, I just don't know that much about shallow mount subs. I asked because I've heard of people building walls of 12"s in their trucks behind the front seats. I know jl makes shallow mount but it's way to pricey, what about pioneer?, I've heard good things about their shallow mounts. I wish you had room for one good 12 and a 600-1000 watt amp.

 

[LITTLE]

I realize that the 12" jl's weren't the best suggestion, I just don't know that much about shallow mount subs. I asked because I've heard of people building walls of 12"s in their trucks behind the front seats. I know jl makes shallow mount but it's way to pricey, what about pioneer?, I've heard good things about their shallow mounts. I wish you had room for one good 12 on a 600-1000 watt amp.

 

[HoleshotzPerf]

For the subs, I was thinking of going with this box

http://www.spl2k.com/superduty112.html

with 2 JL 13TW5-3's if I could get them for reasonable prices or the pioneers if not. That box fills the space a lot better then the one I have.

As far as the speakers and amp go, did I make the right choice there? No one has said anything about that yet.

 

[azimuth 5,000+ posts]

i installed the pioneer shallow mount 12's behind the seat of a chevy 2500 this summer. .7 cubes per sub ported. entire box was 1.4 cubes tuned to 35hz. i was actually quite surprised by the performance.