help me rebuild my front stage and integrate rear fill

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Well I was thinking that since madisound usually models the drivers as well, and the xos are setup to work with 8 ohm tweets and 4 or 8 ohm mids. I could make sure I choose tthe drivers wwith correct nominal impedance and with an Fs out of the range it will be playing....still wont work?? I'm still learning here.

 

[dontbeaprix 10+ year member]

Tang Band W8-1772 8" Neodymium Full Range Driver 264-893

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Can't fit an 8

 

[dontbeaprix 10+ year member]

Can't fit an 8

Where there is a will there is a way,lol

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

Fitting an 8 will do wonders.....awwwwww yyeeeeaaaahhhhhh kinda wonders. I don't know what it is about midbass 8s they just do it for me they bring the substage forward quite a bit and seem to balance out the highs better.

 

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I also agree where theres a will theres a way, may need to do some fiberglass work but be worth it.

 

[dontbeaprix 10+ year member]

One thing is for shure with a 8" fullrange setup up front you def would not need any rear fill.

 

[duanebro 10+ year member]

I would never use that driver in a car. It is ment to be rear horn loaded, in a TL, or at least in a big ported box. And will most likely need to be on axis to sound good. plus they are $250 each!

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

what about a full range driver such as this Fostex FF125WK 5" Full Range: Madisound Speaker Store in my door.

then, if necessary, a tweeter crossed high (maybe 5k) and placed high on the pillar?

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

or maybe this on midrange duty Scanspeak 15M/4624G Discovery, 5.25" Midrange: Madisound Speaker Store and a tweet....but then I'd need passive xo's built......i think

 

[duanebro 10+ year member]

Now you're getting somewhere. Yes you will need a tweeter with the scan speak driver. And a xo.

If you look at the impedance graph for that driver you can see that, although it is a 4 ohm driver, if you crossover at 3,000 Hz the impedance is about 8 ohms. This is one of the reasons passive xo's are hard to do. Oh and the impedance can change when you put it in a box!

Duane

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

Clarion U.S.A. | SRQ1621S

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Now you're getting somewhere. Yes you will need a tweeter with the scan speak driver. And a xo.
If you look at the impedance graph for that driver you can see that, although it is a 4 ohm driver, if you crossover at 3,000 Hz the impedance is about 8 ohms. This is one of the reasons passive xo's are hard to do. Oh and the impedance can change when you put it in a box!

Duane

would my door count as an impedance changing box? what about a lower xover point? but then that might require me to keep the mid and tweeter closer together...or maybe try a diff driver? What should I be looking for in a mid chart? flat impedance?

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Clarion U.S.A. | SRQ1621S

thats actually a pretty sexy freq response! but Idk will those will even be better than my Pioneer D series comps?

also whats the xover freq...all is see is a 6db slope

Edit: seems to be around 3k with 6db slope.

not sure if I'm wanting those though....

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Hi-Vi FR600 6" 2-way Autosound System: Madisound Speaker Store

what about these?

 

[dontbeaprix 10+ year member]

Dayton Audio ND105-4 4" Aluminum Cone Midbass Driver 4 Ohm 290-212

These little guys are ****** looking. There are tons of them on you tube gettin down.