Help me build a computer $1000

[KINGDELL91 10+ year member]

DUDE..... Get a DELL....

 

[Decado2 10+ year member]

Why, cause thats your last name?

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

1. when i did my first build(current rig im on now) i didn't use the strap..waste of money imo..i just touched the psu everytime i went to install a new part..

2. i would also recommend this ram..its awesome http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298

1. Keep in mind that a damaging static discharge can occur even if you don't feel it. Hence, most people don't even realize they've done damage since they don't feel the zap and see the little spark.

2. Not a bad deal at all on that OCZ memory. Thanks for linking that.

 

[darkhunter139 10+ year member]

1. Keep in mind that a damaging static discharge can occur even if you don't feel it. Hence, most people don't even realize they've done damage since they don't feel the zap and see the little spark.
2. Not a bad deal at all on that OCZ memory. Thanks for linking that.

I used the touch the PSU method as well. I think people make too big a deal out of the static thing.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

I used the touch the PSU method as well. I think people make too big a deal out of the static thing.

Believe what you want. Once you've worked for a F500 computer company in the manufacturing division and been contracted for field work for a variety of clients including the military and you see what their policies regarding it are and what lengths they go to to guard against it (manufacturing area flooring made out of non-conductive material that spans 20,000+ sq ft), you'll understand that it is a bigger deal than most people will think (read: assume).

I realize that computer companies have reputations for reliability to uphold since all of us throwing together a system aren't cranking them out for a huge customer base like they are, but a huge part of that reputation stems from product reliability which can be directly related to the integrity of client data stored on the system. Both of these things can be completely compromised by the average DIY'er not taking care when building a new system, performing an upgrade, or carrying out a break/fix situation.

Now really, is $8 for an anti-static wrist strap going to completely tank a $1000 budget? I don't know about you, but I'd like my $1000 worth of toys to work just fine after a few years in case I'm not able to spend that kind of money again for an upgrade.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

Believe what you want. Once you've worked for a F500 computer company in the manufacturing division and been contracted for field work for a variety of clients including the military and you see what their policies regarding it are and what lengths they go to to guard against it (manufacturing area flooring made out of non-conductive material that spans 20,000+ sq ft), you'll understand that it is a bigger deal than most people will think (read: assume).
I realize that computer companies have reputations for reliability to uphold since all of us throwing together a system aren't cranking them out for a huge customer base like they are, but a huge part of that reputation stems from product reliability which can be directly related to the integrity of client data stored on the system. Both of these things can be completely compromised by the average DIY'er not taking care when building a new system, performing an upgrade, or carrying out a break/fix situation.

Now really, is $8 for an anti-static wrist strap going to completely tank a $1000 budget? I don't know about you, but I'd like my $1000 worth of toys to work just fine after a few years in case I'm not able to spend that kind of money again for an upgrade.

I dont mean to argue but most the time companys, specially F500 (cause I work at one too) are over cautious. They do things like 20,000Sq ft of non-conductive flooring not because they need too but because its a saftey measure. Just like they make everyone in the plant im in wear steel toed boots and eye protection in areas that clearly don't need them. My buddy already built a computer and has the stuff I need to keep anti-static. BTW which F500 do you work for if you dont mind me asking?

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Some may think he's one slice of cheese short of a Double Swissburger Deluxe Flatliner Special, but I believe we should be embracing the burger with open, spatula-like hands, not shunning it.

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

I don't mean to argue but most the time companies, especially F500 (cause I work at one too) are over cautious. They do things like 20,000Sq ft of non-conductive flooring not because they need too but because its a safety measure. Just like they make everyone in the plant im in wear steel toed boots and eye protection in areas that clearly don't need them. My buddy already built a computer and has the stuff I need to keep anti-static. BTW which F500 do you work for if you don't mind me asking?

I don't understand how a 20,000 sq ft non-conductive floor in a computer assembly area can be a safety measure over a concrete floor except for guarding electronic components from static discharge damage. It only works if the assembler standing on the floor is wearing the wrist-strap equivalent of the heel strap so that they are at zero potential.

It's not just the companies themselves that do this to be over-cautious, it also comes as requirements from product vendors such as Seagate, Western Digital, AMD/ATI, and intel which in turn work in conjunction with the OEM's to formulate and ensure that they adhere to ISO9001 quality assurance standards (which can differ greatly from company to company if they have attained certification).

I work for HP.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

I don't understand how a 20,000 sq ft non-conductive floor in a computer assembly area can be a safety measure over a concrete floor except for guarding electronic components from static discharge damage. It only works if the assembler standing on the floor is wearing the wrist-strap equivalent of the heel strap so that they are at zero potential.
It's not just the companies themselves that do this to be over-cautious, it also comes as requirements from product vendors such as Seagate, Western Digital, AMD/ATI, and intel which in turn work in conjunction with the OEM's to formulate and ensure that they adhere to ISO9001 quality assurance standards (which can differ greatly from company to company if they have attained certification).

I work for HP.

Ahh HP that explains it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif jp

I was just saying sometimes companies, especially F500, are overly cautious. I would think without the floor if they just used grounded straps HP would see very close to the same outcome of there computer builds. I may be wrong but I was just pointing out at least at our company we are over cautious and sometimes not everything is necessary

 

[Scoobydoo 5,000+ posts]

i have built over 20 computers and i have never killed a component with static discharge

i was overly cautious with my first build and made sure i built it in the kitchen, now i just build them at my desk while rubbing my feet on the carpet

 

[sickofsoyo 10+ year member]

enermax PSU, Patriot Ram (cheaper make, but some of the best stuff out there), Core 2 Quad, wait for GPU, there are some new ones comin out that kill current cards in performance, and are gonna cost around the same (smaller die size = less silicon = cheaper)

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

Ahh HP that explains it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif jp
I was just saying sometimes companies, especially F500, are overly cautious. I would think without the floor if they just used grounded straps HP would see very close to the same outcome of there computer builds. I may be wrong but I was just pointing out at least at our company we are over cautious and sometimes not everything is necessary

Essentially, the flooring+heel strap does the exact same thing as a wrist strap. It just allows the worker mobility anywhere in the protected area without having to be tied to a fixed grounding point. I could walk the entire distance of the area holding a motherboard, cpu, hdd, or gpu and not cause any static damage.

Excessive? Hell yes.

Great for productivity? Hell yes.

i have built over 20 computers and i have never killed a component with static discharge

That you know of. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Static damage can occur without outright "killing " a component. It may still work just fine for a long time to come, but eventually the weakened IC/circuit may give out. Imagine that happening at the most inopportune of times such as backing up data from one drive to another and losing it all as a result.

 

[Hydrastas 10+ year member]

mine went for 300, badass for gaming too.