gun control?

well this exploded....

My opinion is that we should neither restrict, not allow guns. The crimes are going to happen either way, be it with a knife, or vehicle, or so on. It just will happen. Giving the teachers guns opens up room for abuse of power. Giving students (or anyone) guns freely would cause an increase inviolent crime.

human nature is set that violence is at our core. I'm not going to start "are we good or evil" but everyone has decisions every day that they make, judgements that they pass. Everyone, if opened up to the right situation and influences, could act just as the VT shooter did.

The cure for this nonsense comes not through legilsature but through education. Teach people responsability. Focus especially on high-crime areas like inner-cities where the violence is most prevolant.

I belive violent crime an issue similar to racisim. Through time, and education it can be weened away. No, you'll never get rid of it but if you can reduce it then that's a start. Think of how people thought at the late 1800's/ turn of the century when white-on-black violence was over a thousand times more common than black on white crime. Their weapons? lynching. Through time and education the mere though of lynching anyone to most "socilally adapted individuals" is, not laughable, but never a serious though. (I'm referring to people with actual social contact, not your boonie-hill-billy whose only connection to the outside world is the corner store).

On a nother interesting note, I had overheard (so I'm not sure it's validity) that in Virginia, you have to wait the 5-day government mandated waiting period to purchase a gun retail, however, at the gun shows, there is no waiting period.

So my points: education is the cure. To help us along the way, more indepth background checks, family history, and psychological examinations might not be a bad idea either, however.

 
idk if i would want kids in their early 20's late teens carrying guns on campus. i mean kids get drunk, one dude looks at the other dude's chick and he gets his balls shot off. not a good idea imo.
Thats why I said no alcohol, but that'll probably work as well as saying no weed. Its still going to happen. As you said, increasing security would be best, metal detectors, ect.

Im just looking at it from the schools point of view that it will cost them more then they would be willing to pay.

Can I ask,

is this topic about people, for example a VT student, carrying a gun on a daily basis to defend themselves?
The latter. VT's incident just triggered it.

 
Thats why I said no alcohol, but that'll probably work as well as saying no weed. Its still going to happen. As you said, increasing security would be best, metal detectors, ect.
Im just looking at it from the schools point of view that it will cost them more then they would be willing to pay.

The latter. VT's incident just triggered it.
no way you are gonna keep a campus of 20 year olds alcohol free

 
actually, the origional topic was bout exstremists, such as those are so sick as to blame the holocaust on gun control.
actually they are not totally off base there. the whole fundamental belief in the right to bear arms is for the american citizen to protect themselves from the government. so if there was ever a tyrant in power who tried to take over the citizens would have arms and could form miltia's to defend the people. you take guns away from the people and the government can do whatever they want. stalin and the ussr is a great example.

 
actually they are not totally off base there. the whole fundamental belief in the right to bear arms is for the american citizen to protect themselves from the government. so if there was ever a tyrant in power who tried to take over the citizens would have arms and could form miltia's to defend the people. you take guns away from the people and the government can do whatever they want. stalin and the ussr is a great example.
and yet the tyrants have been disarming us for years

 
The guy weilding the gun was fuggin crazy.

I own an assault rifle and I doubt that I will never shoot anyone with it.

But I can also safely say that if I was in my dorm room and seen or heard someone shooting the shit out of people I would have put one in his head before he shot anyone else.

If guns were illegal like many on here say they want it to be, then I guess I would have had to charge him with my butterknife and get shot down like everyone else.

 
The guy weilding the gun was fuggin crazy.
I own an assault rifle and I doubt that I will never shoot anyone with it.

But I can also safely say that if I was in my dorm room and seen or heard someone shooting the shit out of people I would have put one in his head before he shot anyone else.

If guns were illegal like many on here say they want it to be, then I guess I would have had to charge him with my butterknife and get shot down like everyone else.
i must say that would be funny too see //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

first i think gun laws should be left to the federal government instead of state by state. in order to purchase a gun you must first pass a gun safety class, psycological examination, and pass a nationwide background check before purchasing a gun. seems pretty simple and hopefully it would weed out people like this cho who would've just hung himself instead of taking out 32 people

 
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