Got my alternator today.(Need help fast.)

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

I lol at some people..

Lawlz

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

Even though I'd have no idea what I was looking at would it be possible for a vid of one alt versus the other to happen? Or would it infringe on some patent or something to do that? Like it's one thing to say what an alt can do at idle and it's another to show it. Sometimes people need visuals.

I other words, I'd like to see the results of the post above mine.

 

[DBBOOM 10+ year member]

I personally have (3) DC power alternators and have run a few(if not all) of the brands that have been mentioned. The DC alts performed better in every aspect, including output at idle, max output, and reliablity. Rob said he is willing to do a head to head test, so that pretty much means, unless you prove you build a better product, quit wasting his time.

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

I personally have (3) DC power alternators and have run a few(if not all) of the brands that have been mentioned. The DC alts performed better in every aspect, including output at idle, max output, and reliablity. Rob said he is willing to do a head to head test, so that pretty much means, unless you prove you build a better product, quit wasting his time.

True shit john! Nailed it!... I'm willing to bet no manufacturer would even participate.

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

Even though I'd have no idea what I was looking at would it be possible for a vid of one alt versus the other to happen? Or would it infringe on some patent or something to do that? Like it's one thing to say what an alt can do at idle and it's another to show it. Sometimes people need visuals.
I other words, I'd like to see the results of the post above mine.

I edited my post... In other words I don't need to stir the pot anymore than need be. But maybe for the hell of it, one day I'll ship out all of my alts for head to head comparison.. But I could also do it localy too

 

[badvlvo 10+ year member]

I don't know why you are riding Matt's nuts, but the fact of the matter is that Matt dissed Rob's products, when in fact, Rob is a customer of Matt's parent company. Sure Matt sugar coated it with "I would never say anything bad about DC", then proceeded to say that his product was better than Rob's. That is a //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif in any business. He should have more respect for Rob since Rob sells his product (XS). This is a matter of business principle, not fanboy alliances.

I think Proximity pretty much covered it. EVERYONE claims to have a 'better' product. That's one of the facts of business.

And why should Mech have to kiss Rob's ***? He shouldn't and he doesn't. They are competitors in this market so you will see people make claims and people will form opinions. The delicate part of the relationship is when you sell product to your competition but I would hope that Rob is mature enough to not drop a great product line based on an internet discussion.

As for "riding Matt's nuts", Matt doesn't go that way. I have known him for 10 years and we have worked on countless projects together. I know how he does business and it is in line with the way I do business.

All competition is based something being "better" than another. Mechman wasn't coming out and just blabbing that rob's alternators **** (like people have said about mechman's a few times) he was just pointing out the differences in their approach.
Now is what mechman said valid? I have no idea, but he hasn't said anything outright disrespectful. (unless it's completely false)

I think you might be to only one who is not just reacting to comments on here.

Please, don't rely on other peoples mis-information about our product and quote it for truth... Nothing personal towards you because I dont know you, but what you are saying is simply NOT true and your getting bad information..
See, the point here which most of you dont understand, is the product most of you are buying from most sellers, is exactly what they are knocking on one hand, a factory case, rewound stock unit, then turning around and selling you just that, just repackaged a different way...

The problem here is when someone says something, and it becomes an "internet truth", when in fact it's an outright lie.. Most times I will just ignore it, until it gets to the point when people who dont know about things, start talking about them like they do.. Then, I will come in and defend our company, and rightfully so..

You tell me when and where, I'll be there...

Quoted for truth!

I would love to have my information corrected but this is what I have to go on for now. I'm not saying there isn't more development involved in your units than just a rewind, but I would like to see what else you have available. That might be of use here.

As for the Alternator Dyno Drags, well, I think I will try to sell a couple people on this idea and see where it goes. Competition amongst MFG's is always fun but sometimes involves way to much alcohol and sometimes strippers.

 

[faiz23 10+ year member]

i am sure each competitor has a each others product,

i want to see a dyno chart from both MFG for each of their products.

pick a car any car and test your alt and the competitors alt and throw it on video.

there will be a 5% variation between batches but nothing too much out of line.

i was set on getting a MECHMAN alt and i still think i will since he ships out all alts with dyno charts, but i like competition it helps drive down prices and that is what the consumer wants. IntERNeT BIxZNESS FtW

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

There very well might be a who builds the best alternator comparison pretty soon... I've contacted a few to see if they would be interested in doing something and the results are looking pretty good. Since Chevy applications seem to be more popular I'm wondering to have the best Chevy fitted alternator build from each mfg or just simply go with a universal built alternator...

Either way since I own a ford and have alternators from roughly 6 mfg's built for it, I will personaly have the tests on mine done localy at a shop. I've done some tests myself last night but I'm not a pro at alt testing so I'll leave it to the people that know what they are doing.

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

The belt isn't slipping on the DB unit becasue it isn't making as much amperage. The only thing that is going to cause belt slip on a bolt-for-bolt replacement with OEM pulley is the alternators additional rotating resistance, which will always be a by product of making big amperage.

Ok I am not the alternator expert, but since your talking about amperage then wouldnt the alternator belt only slip when the high amperage is being pulled? It would slip even when I had no system in my car.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Funny someone saying brand x won't put out power at idle or even make rated power at any rpm is not bashing? LOL considering the relationships I would think there would have been a far better way to put things.

 

[MECHMAN 10+ year member]

i am sure each competitor has a each others product,
i want to see a dyno chart from both MFG for each of their products.

Anyone can see a dyno printout of our alternators performance; we include one with every unit we ship. There have been many people who have posted up pictures and scans of their MechMan dyno sheet. I can't speak for anyone else's product, but our units do exactly what we rate them at or slightly more. If they don't meet spec, (which happens every once in a while) the unit doesn't pass quality control. Pretty simple really.

There really doesn't have to be any kind of back and forth regarding alternator performance and dyno shootouts anyway. Anyone can perform their own alternator test on any alternator with the unit still installed on the vehicle. All you need is a $120 DC amp clamp from Sears, and amplifiers (or some other load) capable of maxing out the alternator. Clamp the meter around the alternator charge wire (not the battery cable) and crank the system all the way up. The clamp meter will display exactly how much current is running through the alternator's charge cable. This test will work at any engine RPM. Obviously, belt slip, temperature, and cabling loss should be taken intoconsideration.

The reason why we build units the way we do, is because the style units we build have been proven reliable in Police cars for over 10 years. By our logic, if a unit can survive the type of loads and abuse that is seen in an emergency vehicle for thousands of miles, it should do well for our civilian customers. So far, this way of thinking has served us well. There is always more than one way to skin a cat- our customers have been very satisfied with out particular method.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i remember lestech used to do RV's and ambulances

 

[98HOEONSIXEZ 10+ year member]

True shit john! Nailed it!... I'm willing to bet no manufacturer would even participate.

WWoorrdd

 

[dbeez 5,000+ posts]

Anyone can see a dyno printout of our alternators performance; we include one with every unit we ship. There have been many people who have posted up pictures and scans of their MechMan dyno sheet. I can't speak for anyone else's product, but our units do exactly what we rate them at or slightly more. If they don't meet spec, (which happens every once in a while) the unit doesn't pass quality control. Pretty simple really.
There really doesn't have to be any kind of back and forth regarding alternator performance and dyno shootouts anyway. Anyone can perform their own alternator test on any alternator with the unit still installed on the vehicle. All you need is a $120 DC amp clamp from Sears, and amplifiers (or some other load) capable of maxing out the alternator. Clamp the meter around the alternator charge wire (not the battery cable) and crank the system all the way up. The clamp meter will display exactly how much current is running through the alternator's charge cable. This test will work at any engine RPM. Obviously, belt slip, temperature, and cabling loss should be taken intoconsideration.

The reason why we build units the way we do, is because the style units we build have been proven reliable in Police cars for over 10 years. By our logic, if a unit can survive the type of loads and abuse that is seen in an emergency vehicle for thousands of miles, it should do well for our civilian customers. So far, this way of thinking has served us well. There is always more than one way to skin a cat- our customers have been very satisfied with out particular method.

That would be a good way t compare alts. however you are asking someone to spend thousands to check out products and how they compare if the manufacturers would be willing to send some to some to test I am sure someone wouldn't mind to do the testing and send back the alts when done...

 

[TnT_Sounds 10+ year member]

That would be a good way t compare alts. however you are asking someone to spend thousands to check out products and how they compare if the manufacturers would be willing to send some to some to test I am sure someone wouldn't mind to do the testing and send back the alts when done...

Dude that's a joke... Most people I talked to like EA and DB High output, both said they will sell me one to test but not ship me one without paying, to test and send it back in. I've came to the conclusion that most MFG's are cheap, greedy bastards, I won't even bother calling Mechman as he just pretty much said buy one to test it. Then if you don't like it oh well