Gas with 10% ethanol = Bad gas mileage

[Captain_Ahab 5,000+ posts]

I wish I had known this. the BP's around here have a sign saying they do not add ethanol to their gas, and the price is the same.

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

We had a group of "concerned" citizens that went around checking actual gas prices, making sure you were actually getting what you paid for. They stumbled on a few stations that failed:laugh: Most were ran by the Hindu looking guys:wow:

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Corn ethanol sucks from an acreage yield perspective...sugar-derived ethanol is better, but we can't sustain a sugar industry here without some massive tariffs to keep Brazil away. They're really the leaders in sugar ethanol.
Biodiesel really is a better alternative, can be processed from many more sources that won't potentially compete with food crops.

Switchgrass is supposedly the best...

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Even if the gas pump says non- ethanol, it still has some in it:fyi:

Wouldn't that be false advertising?

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

Wouldn't that be false advertising?

People and businesses and governments do it all the time. That's what makes the United States so great

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

People and businesses and governments do it all the time. That's what makes the United States so great

Hmm?

I would assume a sign that said "contains no ethanol" wouldn't actually contain ethanol. I guess the station owner could pay off the government agency that tests it because they have a different sticker than the other types.

 

[Andrizzle 10+ year member]

Yea I really don't think a legit gas station would risk advertising 100% Gas when it is indeed, not 100% gas...

 

[Slim_Shady]

Yea I really don't think a legit gas station would risk advertising 100% Gas when it is indeed, not 100% gas...

this

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

You would be surprised how many ****ing crooks are in government positions. Corruption is a staple in the United States, but there is nothing you can do about it so why complain. Unless you pull a Michael Douglas in Falling Down and go rogue:wow:

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

NVM it was answered above...

I know a guy who has one of the flex fuel vehicles. Tried running the e85 terrible mileage.

I love diesel, but my car unfortunately is gas.

 

[Krazed4Bass 10+ year member]

Ethanol is a bust when using corn, sugar cane supposedly has 7 times more ethanol production. Thus, more efficient. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

>>look under the Comparison with the United States section

I believe someone in Alabama found that the kudzu vine produces ethanol. It grows a foot a day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/06/16/kudzu-biofuel-ethanol.html

Hell, gasoline sucks the efficiency out of the world. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rage.gif.0ad8a6e5565b5fddce406566fdd05149.gif

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/***/atv.shtml

But if you ask me, none of the above is efficient enough from production to the road. Now, EV's are.



If you have a power plant that is environmentally friendly such as wind power, geothermal, solar, nuclear if taken seriously. (not coal, not oil)

As demand for EV's goes up, the price of the technology of the batteries made in EV's go down. Thus, the EV prices go down. Economics.

Gasoline became so expensive for everyone, except some... it crushed the world economy. Now, buying more electronics obviously helps battery technology advance and improve.

Electric is obviously more efficient that gasoline. Once the batteries are charged, the vehicle can be around 90% efficient or higher. If you were to create your own power supply with a small solar panel at your house, you could use that power for charging this vehicle.

Why don't people think this technology is a good idea? That is a matter of opinion.

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

its more polluting also

 

[BassAce 10+ year member]

Ethanol is a bust when using corn, sugar cane supposedly has 7 times more ethanol production. Thus, more efficient. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

>>look under the Comparison with the United States section

I believe someone in Alabama found that the kudzu vine produces ethanol. It grows a foot a day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/06/16/kudzu-biofuel-ethanol.html

Hell, gasoline sucks the efficiency out of the world. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rage.gif.0ad8a6e5565b5fddce406566fdd05149.gif

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/***/atv.shtml

But if you ask me, none of the above is efficient enough from production to the road. Now, EV's are.

Interesting link.

I think EV cars are the way to go, pretty much no maintenance on the motor. I'd like to have a Tesla Roadster if they were a little cheaper. But I think Dodge is starting to make some EV's that'll have good range and performance.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

yep ethanol has less energy potential then gasoline, its basically the oil companies "jewing" you.....

Well... it originally started in an attempt to lower gas prices... but they put ethanol in and kept the same price.

Good intentions started out well but ended horribly.

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

that crap cuts my mileage as well....i'll pay 10 cents more a gallon for real gas anytime....