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I was actually looking at Fi since they are right down the street from me. My installer assures me that they are Chinese as well. Assembled in America, yes, but Chinese nonetheless. I understand this sight is pretty much dominated by Sundown and Taramps. No worries! I'll just stick to Random Pictures, politics, and Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. "Stay in my lane", I get it.
We've had this conversation before. I don't have anything against chinese products until they call themselves "American".
 

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We've had this conversation before. I don't have anything against chinese products until they call themselves "American".
So, what about American companies that use all Chinese parts, but assemble them in the U.S.A.? I guess that's o.k. I guess that you consider those "American Subs"?
 

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So, what about American companies that use all Chinese parts, but assemble them in the U.S.A.? I guess that's o.k. I guess that you consider those "American Subs"?
Depends if they name their company "American" to try to mislead consumers.
 

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I wasn't a huge fan of my DC 18s but they do suggest smaller boxes for their woofers.
I haven't been super impressed with DC short of the LV5 and 6 but they do perform surprisingly well in small boxes.
I was actually looking at Fi since they are right down the street from me. My installer assures me that they are Chinese as well. Assembled in America, yes, but Chinese nonetheless.
If you live right in town with them why not see if you can go check out their shop and confirm what they do and don't do in house? AFAIK they have "Made in USA" label on most of their stuff and considering lead times on getting product from them I'd imagine they have to be doing a significant amount of stuff right there.

And that installer is way out of his league trying to build a box for multiple 18s if he thinks 1 layer of ply is going to hold up to that cone area at even 500W. A good carpenter, but definitely needs to check out what guys who get loud do.
 

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I haven't been super impressed with DC short of the LV5 and 6 but they do perform surprisingly well in small boxes.

If you live right in town with them why not see if you can go check out their shop and confirm what they do and don't do in house? AFAIK they have "Made in USA" label on most of their stuff and considering lead times on getting product from them I'd imagine they have to be doing a significant amount of stuff right there.

And that installer is way out of his league trying to build a box for multiple 18s if he thinks 1 layer of ply is going to hold up to that cone area at even 500W. A good carpenter, but definitely needs to check out what guys who get loud do.
That's 17 layer 1" Baltic Birch fully braced. It's braced left, center, right, front, and back. And, it's for 8-15's. He knows what he's doing, believe me, the shiit is crazy loud (160's). Have you ever tried to build a sixth order box for 8-15's in a 2001 Forerunner? It might say Made in the USA, but where are the parts from? Don't be so naive.
 

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Depends if they name their company "American" to try to mislead consumers.
Or, if they put Made in the USA to mislead their consumers. Yes, they MADE them here, but where did all the parts come from? Please!
 

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one of the main owners of Fi car audio was a machinist prior to starting fi, as far as I am aware all their top and bottom plates, poles are machined in house, now where they get their small parts and magnets? im sure overseas because there are hardly any us manufacturer that are tooled to build the level of car audio that we seek today.
 

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one of the main owners of Fi car audio was a machinist prior to starting fi, as far as I am aware all their top and bottom plates, poles are machined in house, now where they get their small parts and magnets? im sure overseas because there are hardly any us manufacturer that are tooled to build the level of car audio that we seek today.
I think that's the problem, is you literally can't find this stuff in the US to buy or have built.
 

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one of the main owners of Fi car audio was a machinist prior to starting fi, as far as I am aware all their top and bottom plates, poles are machined in house, now where they get their small parts and magnets? im sure overseas because there are hardly any us manufacturer that are tooled to build the level of car audio that we seek today.
"Made in the USA" is a relative term. A company will never say, "assembled in the USA". Hating on AB because of the name is a little trivial. That's like me hating on Sound Cubed because I don't like nepotism. I believe the owner of Sound Cubed is the son of the DD owner. No big deal. I'm going to go with 4-8's on a Smart3. If I would've chosen 2-10's, then, I would've wanted a 5K and I don't feel like dumping that much money into the electrical.
 

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It might say Made in the USA, but where are the parts from?
Coils from Precision Econowind in Florida, spiders and cones from Loudspeaker Components in Wisconsin. The only thing I suspect the "American Made" companies are importing is frames, at least the guys who use off-the-shelf ones.
You cannot say "Made in USA" and just assemble foreign made parts here.
Have you ever tried to build a sixth order box for 8-15's in a 2001 Forerunner?
No, nor would I. Talk about stuffing 10 pounds of shit into a 6 pound bag.
But yeah, I'm sure 1" thick sides is OK for a 160dB wall build so long as you paid 180$ a sheet for some pedigree plywood.
 

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Coils from Precision Econowind in Florida, spiders and cones from Loudspeaker Components in Wisconsin. The only thing I suspect the "American Made" companies are importing is frames, at least the guys who use off-the-shelf ones.
You cannot say "Made in USA" and just assemble foreign made parts here.

No, nor would I. Talk about stuffing 10 pounds of shit into a 6 pound bag.
But yeah, I'm sure 1" thick sides is OK for a 160dB wall build so long as you paid 180$ a sheet for some pedigree plywood.
I didn't say that all the parts were foreign. I'm sure that they use just enough American parts to be able to say, "Made in the USA".
 

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I didn't say that all the parts were foreign. I'm sure that they use just enough American parts to be able to say, "Made in the USA".
The actual real "made in usa" tag is very hard to get. Almost all of the parts have to be USA origin and virtually all the labor done here.

Buying all or majority chinese parts and assembling it here will get you either the "assembled in USA" tag or if you want to sound fancy "built in USA"

You cannot say "Made in USA" and just assemble foreign made parts here.
You are 100% correct. The "made in USA" tag is a hard tag to get and is not "Made in the USA, but where are the parts from? Don't be so naive".

He's confusing made in usa with built in usa
 

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The actual real "made in usa" tag is very hard to get. Almost all of the parts have to be USA origin and virtually all the labor done here.

Buying all or majority chinese parts and assembling it here will get you either the "assembled in USA" tag or if you want to sound fancy "built in USA"

You are 100% correct. The "made in USA" tag is a hard tag to get and is not "Made in the USA, but where are the parts from? Don't be so naive".

He's confusing made in usa with built in usa
That's exactly what I said. All of the parts aren't made in the USA. So, to me, "Made in the USA" is a misnomer if all of the parts aren't made in the USA. I'm not confusing anything.
 

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