Alpine Type Rs Vs. Sundowns

[tank313]

Lol budget build bro... I don't even wanna start adding up the money I got into my trucks

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Awww brutal...One mans budget build is another mans dream. That's how we all started at some point. Then you graduate to no longer wanting to add up the money you've invested.

 

[tommymilan311]

Awww brutal...One mans budget build is another mans dream. That's how we all started at some point. Then you graduate to no longer wanting to add up the money you've invested.

We budget built our Kia Soul. Found some Kenwoods with a Kenwood amps for 150 on craigslist. Bought it. Found another of the same pair for 50, got em. Now we have a sound wall in the Soul //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. Its loud, but the bass seems low, lower than intended(at least with my music). But it is loud.

Addition info edit:

We did use a converter and spliced into the factory sub speaker wires, that may have something to do with the "low sound."

Another Edit:

I need to hear some of these Sundowns so I'm on your level of loud. Loud to me is much louder than my '12 Cruzes factory Pioneer.

 

[els1989]

Awww brutal...One mans budget build is another mans dream. That's how we all started at some point. Then you graduate to no longer wanting to add up the money you've invested.

Lol I can't even add up my electrical from 1 vehicle to add up to under 1k

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[tank313]

I had an opportunity to get DDs, but the were more than twice what I spent on the Alpines, and that is probably because they were priced for retail. I got a steal, 200 for the pair brand new (don't like buying peoples used stuff). Which is pretty cheap for what I has saw. Perhaps my next project I'll venture off to another brand. (kinda already planned on doing that anyways to broaden my speaker knowledge.) I'm very pleased so far with my Alpines. Maybe not the loudest I've personally heard, but by far the clearest. And the other guy was fixing peoples systems (or changing out the SDs with Alpines or Kickers) and likely were poorly installed. He said they were loud but not clear.

I was reading along fine until I saw Kicker and then I just saw red...I'd rather have a Sony XPOLD system...

You know I'm big on home theaters and a lot of people in that circle love Bose, "They're so clear, there so powerful, blah blah blah" But there's this giant hole in there Fq response right around 200Hz. I can't get over it. So when you say you like the sound of Alpines and Kickers over other higher quality options my thought is, you're a Bose guy.

 

[tank313]

Lol I can't even add up my electrical from 1 vehicle to add up to under 1k

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**** batteries, alt, and 0 gauge can set you back lol!

 

[basswiigee2fix]

im currently running the type rs... lol everything depends on model of sub in my eyes... type rs will beat some sundowns... but most of sundown will beat out the type rs hands down... your always gonna have brand huggers... best way i learned save... buy used... trade... find what you like before you invest big bucks into something that isnt even what you like... i like my subs beastly.. i dont care about musical... lol i wanna feel my subs... my dads ride on the other hand complete sq set up... and in there i went american bass xd ten cuz i preferred them over the sa8v1 ... felt the xd's out performed them... but the sa8v2 killed the xd's then it fell on price point.. lol went xd's...

 

[tommymilan311]

I was reading along fine until I saw Kicker and then I just saw red...I'd rather have a Sony XPOLD system...
You know I'm big on home theaters and a lot of people in that circle love Bose, "They're so clear, there so powerful, blah blah blah" But there's this giant hole in there Fq response right around 200Hz. I can't get over it. So when you say you like the sound of Alpines and Kickers over other higher quality options my thought is, you're a Bose guy.

I'm not a kickers guy, I personally don't care for them. I blew one in best buy and never looked back. Literally, I left before anyone noticed. But no, I'm not a bose guy at all. I haven't ventured off into that valley yet. I got a Yamaha receiver(that I got from the pawn shop down the road) with my old car door speakers hooked up, and a 500 watt JL sub. I play a lot of my written music over it, when that sounds good I car test it. That my HT use.

In reference to the Kickers, that's what they sell. Alpines and Kickers. I was over there today when getting my oil changed and asked about Sundown.

 

[basswiigee2fix]

lol and id put the L7 on par if not a lil better than type rs... to each his own... lol currently have both subs on hand for side by sides...

 

[tommymilan311]

lol and id put the L7 on par if not a lil better than type rs... to each his own... lol currently have both subs on hand for side by sides...

I know a guy that swears by Kickers, competed with them and everything. He did say anything could have sounded loud in that van though.

 

[basswiigee2fix]

I know a guy that swears by Kickers, competed with them and everything. He did say anything could have sounded good in that van though.

ive done some budget builds that guys on here would praise up and down ..... till i popped the trunk... lmao... i did a budget build like under 500 for everything and did 4 12's on a zrx2k... lmao... and it surprised alot of people....

and people swear by them cuz theyve never heard better... L7 and JL and type r/x are big mainstream brands... so tend to be referred to as best of the best cuz thats what people think with those price tags... lol

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

I have heard this. But from my ear, I can tell that 15s have more low end bass than my 10s, and my 10s have way more range than the 15s. But, in defense of the 15s, my 10s are much higher quality speakers. The 15s are hifonics brutus in a ported box powered by a Rockford Fosgate Punch. To me, they sound like poop. Nowhere near the clarity I look for.

install and vehicle accoustics all playa part in this aswell as the equipment. get this in your head now before you make dumb decisions on wrong information. size does not affect sound.

 

[tommymilan311]

ive done some budget builds that guys on here would praise up and down ..... till i popped the trunk... lmao... i did a budget build like under 500 for everything and did 4 12's on a zrx2k... lmao... and it surprised alot of people....

IDK because I haven't heard Sundowns or anything like that, but I think mine could surprise some people. It flexes the roof of my car a good bit.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I have heard this. But from my ear, I can tell that 15s have more low end bass than my 10s, and my 10s have way more range than the 15s. But, in defense of the 15s, my 10s are much higher quality speakers. The 15s are hifonics brutus in a ported box powered by a Rockford Fosgate Punch. To me, they sound like poop. Nowhere near the clarity I look for.

The enclosure and general install is the difference you're hearing. My SA8v2 install played lower than anything I've ever heard, including the IB installs I've done.

Right... I think I'm gonna try to get a proto type from them if it's possible

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Meh, we'll see. Not sure if they'll go through with it. However, they have been getting a lot of attention lately, which may equate to more sales. Hopefully they do make it.

However, I'll stick to other brands for now.

 

[tommymilan311]

install and vehicle accoustics all playa part in this aswell as the equipment. get this in your head now before you make dumb decisions on wrong information. size does not affect sound.

I mean, I generally understand that, but I thought it did, IDK how to explain what I thought. So why do you buy a 10 over a 15 or a 12 over an 8? And I'm not trying to be a smart ***, I'm generally curious, I haven't been doing speaker installs long, but got hooked the second I started and want to know everything there is to know.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I mean, I generally understand that, but I thought it did, IDK how to explain what I thought. So why do you buy a 10 over a 15 or a 12 over an 8? And I'm not trying to be a smart ***, I'm generally curious, I haven't been doing speaker installs long, but got hooked the second I started and want to know everything there is to know.

Depends on the space you have for a box. If you have the space, more cone area is generally better.

However, don't try and cram 18's into two cubes gross //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Smaller subs in the right sized enclosure will out-perform larger ones in an enclosure that is too small

 

[tommymilan311]

Depends on the space you have for a box. If you have the space, more cone area is generally better.
However, don't try and cram 18's into two cubes gross //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Smaller subs in the right sized enclosure will out-perform larger ones in an enclosure that is too small

Darn.... My trunk is huge. I could have easily fit 12's with the right enclosure. Oh well, It still bangs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

pretty much^^^^

measure your trunk and see what you can fit, more cone area means louder on the same power. but as stated above dont put subs where they dont belong. just how there is no universal t shirt size there is no universal box size

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

Darn.... My trunk is huge. I could have easily fit 12's with the right enclosure. Oh well, It still bangs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

if you have the new optima yes, they have big trunks. CSCStang put 2 12 type rs in one earlier this year

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

I'm a smedium t-shirt kinda guy

So many funny smedium pics on google images, but this is the wrong thread for them. *sigh*

 

[C1500martin 10+ year member]

I'm a smedium t-shirt kinda guy
So many funny smedium pics on google images, but this is the wrong thread for them. *sigh*

im a marge, christmas and birthdays suck becasue nothing ever fits right //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif