Alpine Type R burning smell

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

I just posted a vid of Type R's taking over 2k RMS. Its all in your set up. You are clipping it.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

well looks like you XPLODED it. Thats what you get for using sony products. its the CA gods punishing you

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

so both my amps need to be turned up?

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

depends on your setup. i run my hifonics at full tilt for 20+ mins sometimes without overheating them. they are getting ~700watts each but rated at 600. whats your box like?

 

[microhaxo 10+ year member]

Nothing wrong with using a sony deck, and most of you DONT know what you are talking about.

Xplod is just a Pre set EQ for the deck, basically Low at +6 Treble at +3 mid at +4 ETC.. They also have Vocal, Edge, Cruise, Space, Gravity, Custom or Off (flat).

im 99% sure that is not the CAUSE of this problem..

ALSO the deck will only output at most 0.2V from the pre outs for the amp. So MORE THAN LIKELY HE is not seeing more than 32 ACV off the terminals of the amp so Not a big problem there. ID say turn off your bass boost from the amp and set the sub level to FLAT the (middle line) if it already isnt there and i would investigate LOW voltage from your electrical causing clipping as the main problem.

The R's can take a VERY VERY good beating, ive seen my friend give a type R over 1300w fully clipped from an m500 and they didnt burn at all.

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

eh it for a 4th gen camaro i dont know the exact specs on the box since i only paid 50 dollars for it and these cars dont leave much room for subwoofers

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

how exactly do i tell if it clipping it sounds great....till i get that smell inside the box....

 

[microhaxo 10+ year member]

More than likely you have never heard subs that arent getting some form of a clipped signal. took me about 3 years to hear an actual fully clean signal..

If you are using bass boost TURN IT OFF.. And set your gains with a 50hz SINE wave and a Digital multimeter..

But as i said before, there should be NO reason for the R's to be burning from a 500w AMP that will barely reach 500w at MAX gain with a 0.2v pre out. Your battery might be dipping low on voltage causing some severe clipping, or you have the sub level at full and bass boost up and gain up which causes major clipping.

Also make sure the subs are wired correctly.

 

[csu87 10+ year member]

Nothing wrong with using a sony deck, and most of you DONT know what you are talking about.Xplod is just a Pre set EQ for the deck, basically Low at +6 Treble at +3 mid at +4 ETC.. They also have Vocal, Edge, Cruise, Space, Gravity, Custom or Off (flat).

im 99% sure that is not the CAUSE of this problem..

ALSO the deck will only output at most 0.2V from the pre outs for the amp. So MORE THAN LIKELY HE is not seeing more than 32 ACV off the terminals of the amp so Not a big problem there. ID say turn off your bass boost from the amp and set the sub level to FLAT the (middle line) if it already isnt there and i would investigate LOW voltage from your electrical causing clipping as the main problem.

The R's can take a VERY VERY good beating, ive seen my friend give a type R over 1300w fully clipped from an m500 and they didnt burn at all.

dont usually have a prob with some sony stuff but my 2 sony 4x6s went to shit today

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

well i have a 96 camaro Z28 with a 1.2 farad capacitor and i get some diming in the dash and lights here and there but it doesnt dip down in voltage like it does on my mustang but i dont even have a capacitor on it and the alt is about dead on it but that system is weak compared to this one only 2 1300wat sonys and a 1200 watt amp

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

im running two MRP-500 Alpine amps each powering there own sub

 

[vishal1 10+ year member]

hah, i had that exact setup except with an alpine 9886 which has its own sub outputs that i had to split in 2 cuz i had 2 of those amps. your deck will give out about a 1.5 volt signal at max volume, but it wont be a clean signal. my alpine gave out 4 volts at max volume but my setup was tuned to about 60 percent of the decks volume which means it gave out a 2.4 volt signal. but remember i cut that signal in half so each amp was getting 1.2 volts at 60 percent of the volume, vs. your 0.2 at whatever volume you are set at. that is why my subs did fine with both amps turned way the hell up. im talking 100 percent gain and 100 percent bass boost. sounded good, but was clipped as ****. i was sending well over 800 rms to each sub on most songs. but that was back when i didnt know what the hell i was doing... my bet is that you need a deck that will give out a higher pre out voltage, especially cuz you are splitting that signal in half...

 

[microhaxo 10+ year member]

hah, i had that exact setup except with an alpine 9886 which has its own sub outputs that i had to split in 2 cuz i had 2 of those amps. your deck will give out about a 1.5 volt signal at max volume, but it wont be a clean signal. my alpine gave out 4 volts at max volume but my setup was tuned to about 60 percent of the decks volume which means it gave out a 2.4 volt signal. but remember i cut that signal in half so each amp was getting 1.2 volts at 60 percent of the volume, vs. your 0.2 at whatever volume you are set at. that is why my subs did fine with both amps turned way the hell up. im talking 100 percent gain and 100 percent bass boost. sounded good, but was clipped as ****. i was sending well over 800 rms to each sub on most songs. but that was back when i didnt know what the hell i was doing... my bet is that you need a deck that will give out a higher pre out voltage, especially cuz you are splitting that signal in half...

Word...

also use a DMM to tune things, never just guess.

 

[vishal1 10+ year member]

Get a digital Multimeter and check things properly.

exactly, get a DMM and tune it using a 50 hz test tone to 34 volts. that will give you about 500 rms. do that for both amps. but remember, it will be 500 rms at 50 hz. which means in real time music, it will be much less, so u might want to tune to 40 volts.

 

[Street_Racer 10+ year member]

ok thanks guys ill check it out tommrow and post some more if i dont get something you all been some help kinda a noob at this just got the basics not really good at all this yet