2 15's civic install. lots of pics!

[req 5,000+ posts]

lol at you kid.

you spent all that time and effort and now you just want to throw it away because some guy said its not as loud or some nonsense.

i say keep it for a bit. change the enclosure if anything. do some reading and experimenting. stop relying on what people say you should buy, and do some research on what you can do with what you have and some fabrication.

but its your money. go ahead and waste it if you want.

 

[rollerdj 10+ year member]

huh, i just saw that on craigslist 10 mins ago before this thread. i take it for the OP doesn't like it.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

lol at you kid.
you spent all that time and effort and now you just want to throw it away because some guy said its not as loud or some nonsense.

i say keep it for a bit. change the enclosure if anything. do some reading and experimenting. stop relying on what people say you should buy, and do some research on what you can do with what you have and some fabrication.

but its your money. go ahead and waste it if you want.

Like everyone says, its 90% install 5% equipment and 5% beer during the build. Keep what you got and mess around with some different enclosures. Try doing an "in-trunk, build-in" if you can, (build the enclosure inside of the trunk) you might be able to port it with aeros too....if your tryin to be louder. If you want sq then make a good sealed box for em and bang dem shits:crazy:

 

[Civic96Lx 10+ year member]

so if i wanna make a new sealed enclosure, what would be different? that is the shortest i can get the enclosure in terms of height.. make it bigger or what?? not trying to port 15's with 6+ cubes.. :/

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

so if i wanna make a new sealed enclosure, what would be different? that is the shortest i can get the enclosure in terms of height.. make it bigger or what?? not trying to port 15's with 6+ cubes.. :/

Im just talkin about a build in with it sealed off from the trunk //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

 

[soydeedo 10+ year member]

I don't see why you can't just experiment with what you have - try just turning the box around for starters. Can't hurt to try. Also since you replaced your fronts, check and make sure they're in phase with your stock rears. Then double check the phase between your subs and various other speakers. Who knows what you might find. You can also add polyfill to your sub box to make them a little more efficient since it seems like you don't have enough power.

Don't give up just yet.

 

[t-money 10+ year member]

honestly, just switching subs on the same amp may not get louder to the ear(maybe the mic), so if you really want louder i would get a bigger amp and go from there. But like mentioned before i would keep what you have, i would hate for you to switch cause these guys told you too and didn't find it any louder. But i guess you learn from experience.

 

[DarkFox 10+ year member]

And maybe I missed the part where I was talking to you. Im going by my experience with PRs, I have heard a lot of them, including 2 15" PR setups PORTED in trunks that were not as loud. Im just saying 3 good 10"s can be louder than that system if he was interested in running 10s. Because he was having doubts. Make more sense?

Maybe you missed the part where you woke up in the morning and joined a public message board and posted something on-line for all to see in a location where the intent is to have lots of people read it to get there input so you can learn. Your a dick and have no useful information to post.

Stop trying to fluff your post count and come back when you have something useful to add. Anyone can say, well this many of this can be louder then that... Anything can be louder then just about anything else if you build the box right. Look what Bose does with a 4 inch driver. Is it because they have 73mm Xmax or something crazy? no, its because they no what there doing, I wasn't going to get this far into it but may as well now.

I bet your 15s are pretty loud, but you had a hard time getting the box in there at 5.5^3 feet right? Now I am going to speak in generals here for all these people trying to get you to change your system. How do you get most 12s (or 10s or anything else for that matter) to truley perform well, to the point where 2 12" subs are going to outperform your 15" sealed subs.... You put them in a LARGE ported box, with a good amount of port area. Now if your gonna go for something thats really gonna move and have considerable output, the port will probably have somewhere like 60 to 80 sq inches of port area. I have built alot of boxes in this range and the key is having enough box volume to still be able to drop really low even with a already low tuning.

To clean this up, your box is pretty close to max right? Thats at 5.5 Cubes. Now take about 1.5^3 feet off the top for a nice big port (the kind that leads to 12s out performing 15s) and your down to 4 cubes on your subs already. IMO if your shooting for a high end 12 in a good ported box to have a noticeable difference in output then your 15s, 2 cubic feet per woofer isn't enough. Just as a example, on my L7 (which has fooled people into thinking I had 15s) is sitting in 3.5^3 feet after all other displacements, so the box itself takes up about 5^3 feet and thats one sub. Not saying there is a direct relationship and 2 = 1o^3 feet, but I think you would want more space then what your going for.

THIS IS ALL IN GENERALS, TAKE IT AT THAT, I know not everyhing is equal, but I have done alot of systems, and this is my experience, trying for a good ported box is gonna take up just as much if not more space.

I say keep what you got. Every one has personal preferance over this brand or that, ported or sealed, whatever. YOU seemed to like it, and YOU drive it. Dont let a bunch of E-haters get you all wound up. It looks good and seems to perform really well. Wait till something breaks to replace it IMO and enjoy it.

 

[DarkFox 10+ year member]

Also.... With all the talk of your wiring, thats another personal preference neat where people cant see it is a mark of pride in the install. I wouldn't go extravagant there, cause your right, no one will see it, but a few zip ties and it would look 100% better. There is only one spot that legitimately concerns me in your setup here:

Appears to be a fairly sized exposure of O gauge pre fuse in the back? Don't know why theres a fuse in the back, unless I have miss-identified that part, but it looks like a kicker fuse block. Guess it may be a Distribution block? Anyway, exposed hot wires are never good. If you haven't already, clean that up before you burn your car to the ground ;-)

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

^^^ x2 with everything he said

Also, have you thought about just porting one of those 15's if you dont have the room for two? Try it and see what you think, then you could see the other one or keep it around and you can use it later (if you blow the other).......Might as well imo

 

[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

 

[Civic96Lx 10+ year member]

why???

 

[babaganoush123 10+ year member]

don't do any changes stick with it. good job on the install its really clean.

 

[Decado2 10+ year member]

Looks good man, you did a great job!

 

[Decado2 10+ year member]

the waves wont pass into the cabin the right way. Your trunk will be LOUD but your cabin wont. Well not as loud as it could be. two ported 12's probobly would have been a better bet, but thats a sweet install dude!

I would have to agree with you, I had a sigle 15" in a big box in my Altima, I noticed, when switching down to a single 10" in a 1.25 cub box, that, it sounded so much better inside the car vs the 3.5 cube 15" box hogging all the space in the trunk.

Now I have 2 10's in a 2 cube box, it sits lower than the 15" box does so I am sure more sound is entering the cabin vs my old set up.

I am still considering down sizing back to a single 10" though, for what ever reason, the single 10 just sounded better to me than 2, not louder, but better //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif .