10's or 8's...worried about low end.

My eD 8's sure made a whole hell of a lot of bass //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
I made an enclosure for a little eD 8".. skimpy little thing, but I put 100 watts on it & I've never been so impressed in my life. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 
Get a TC 1000 8", W7 8", Tang Band 8" or anything of tha sort.. & tell me 8's don't "produce bass".
Dummy.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
x2 there are plently of 8's that produce a ton of bass... to bad he can't fitt too many of them in his truck //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 
Hell, my single Truebass 8 made WAY more sub-bass than my 12W3v2 did, so there ya go...
I made an enclosure for a little eD 8".. skimpy little thing, but I put 100 watts on it & I've never been so impressed in my life. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

Oh no way!! Lies! all lies. There's just no way an 8 can produce sub bass.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
But hey.. what do ANY of us know?

I mean we ARE all just sitting here telling this guy WRONG information JUST to fuck with him. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
x2 there are plently of 8's that produce a ton of bass... to bad he can't fitt too many of them in his truck //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
Shut up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Invert them. Build a box & put tha sub on tha side.. all sorts of alternatives, dummy.

 
But hey.. what do ANY of us know?
I mean we ARE all just sitting here telling this guy WRONG information JUST to fuck with him. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
it's true, we're all out to get him...I know I am //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif

 
Casper, I love the Cot quote in your sig //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Makes him look almost as dumb as this guy..

"you have to admit the equalizers do seem to make 1 watt sound like 2 (1000 watts from a jl sounds way louder than 1000 from an alpine or rockford or many other brands)"

 
Casper, I love the Cot quote in your sig //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Makes him look almost as dumb as this guy..
"you have to admit the equalizers do seem to make 1 watt sound like 2 (1000 watts from a jl sounds way louder than 1000 from an alpine or rockford or many other brands)"
I actually had to read it like 6 times over to make sure I wasnt missing something. I just couldnt believe someone would actually say that. I mean, What the fuck:laugh:

 
ok so that you can stop accusing me with quotes you pull out of your ass...

here are my first couple of posts....

yes you can get just as much low-end from 8's as 10's but it is gunna be easier to get the low bass performance from 10's...
HMMM i clearly said with my first statement that you CAN get just as much performance from 8's as 10's

it's just natural that the bigger the sub, the better it plays low... granted a ported box can minimize or eliminate the advantage, but since space seems such a restriction, i would say you are going to go sealed, in which case you are gunna have a hard time emphasizing any lows from 8'swhereas you could go 10's, and get more natural lows without sacraficing output or clarity at higher levels...
clearly i was saying that (((((in this guy's circumstance)))) he would have a harder time getting bass from 8's than 10's
imo... just because you CAN get just as much performance out of a smaller sub doesn't mean you should if you don't have to...
in other words if you can get the same performance from 6 8's as 1 15

and the 8's cost more and use more power...

and you don't have a space restriction (even tho the 8's would prolly take more room...

why in god's name would you go with the 8's???

i'd say normally if its a choice between sizes, go with the bigger...it (most of the time) just makes more sence
whats wrong with that? i said if there is a choice... obviously if you have space restirctions or somthing then it's not a choice
:confused:so what i was saying is 8's sealed won't hit as low as 10's sealed... 2 8's ported might be able to hit really low and loud, by why mess with it when you can do just as good or better with 2 10's sealed?
speaks for itself my point in this was only to say making 8's requires more box building effort and it's likely that you will sacrafice some SQ unless you are a super box designer (like audioholic)
dude you are talking about 2 8's or 2 10's...
besides that even ported you are going to have a hard time matching 2 8's to 2 10's sealed i don't see what the huge discrepancy is... when comparing subs (of the same series) if cost not a factor, the bigger size is almost always more sensible...
again i clearly say.... cost not being a factor if you can do a bigger size sub then you have more potential and more flexibility who on this forum would take an 8w7 over a 13w7 if you could accomodate the 13 in your car and they were offered free???

bigger size subs in comparison just have more potential... PERIOD...
again obviously i ment subs in the same series not comparing w1's to w7's

now with the option between 2 8's ported and 2 10's sealed, i think it would be simpler, easier to get right, and not a whole lot more expensive, if not less expensive to get the 10's
but i did not say the 10s are allways better
with the JL's you can upgrade from an 8 to a 10 for like 10 bucks... i'd say thats pretty worth it... if you think about it, (SEALED) it would take at least 3 8's if not 4 to match 2 10s...
speaks for itself
3 8w1's are gunna run bout 300 bucks2 10w1's are only gunna run about 220 and hit lower harder

so yeah porting minimizes the advantage but i still think 2 10's sealed would do better than 2 8's ported, not in every application of course, but the chances are good
i would like someone to correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't believe there is a single series of subs where the smaller versions have more potential in low-end output than the larger versions
no takers? does that mean 10's are better than 8's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif:confused://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif
the only one acting idiotic, and like you know everything, is you...
i said that if he went with 4 8's sealed he wasn't gunna get as low of a responce as with 2 10's

then you said he could do 2 8's ported, which still normally wouldn't do as good as the 10's of the same series...

seriously dude, i know it's cool to flame cotjones and all... but use your common sence, i know you have a little...

i was OBVIOUSLY talking about comparing 8's and 10's of the same series, if you couldn't understand that then you are dumber than you are trying to make me look...

the jl 8w7, the kicker 8" L7, and many other 8's could kill even some 15"s in output...

instead of nit-picking what i say with the aim of making people look like dumb-asses

why don't you just wake up and help this guy get the right thing....

so for the OP lets look at your options

3 er 4 8's sealed = really expensive, not very efficient

2 8''s ported = really in-expensive, hard to design, hard to build, not the best possible performance...

2 10's sealed = fairly in-expensive, easy to design, easy to build, great performance on both low and high end .... flexibility for future applications, better resale value... (who's gunna buy cheap second-hand 8"s?)

honeslty dude:rolleyes: grow up
and heres where audioholic first started putting words in my mouth, haha

if you are looking to get maximum output then it's pretty much stupid to get 8's unless you have no other choice
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I luv my ten inch woofer. It's so sexy. I wanta make love to it.
notice that i haven't said anything about this guy?

even though i don't agree with him i respect his opinion....

and give mine... i don't have to attack him to prove a point...

i provide the facts i have... he provides the facts he has...

and then the readers can make their own decision instead of saying "i'm right, you are wrong"

 
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