Would you let your 17 year old son have *** with his teacher?

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Of course people thought the earth was flat... That example is bad though its totally different from the issue at hand here. People thought the earth was flat because they didnt kmnow any better and didnt have the technology to really know what shape the earth was... This issue there is no guess work. Everything is on the table. People expect different things from men and women... Even if I think its wrong... I can't help myself but feel the same way..

Why would you continue to hold and maintain an idea you felt was wrong?

 

[dan7532 10+ year member]

Your missing the point... It's not a question of decision making its more along the lines of "what we expect from a male and female". If a 16 year old guy slept with a 30 year old teacher people (especially his friends) would praise him and envy him. If a 16 year old girl did the same thing she would be called a **** etc. and would not be accepted. That could really damage a girls life. Who a girl sleeps with and how many partners she's had etc. ruins her reputation for future dating and just how people view her in general as a person. I'm not going to go into if thats wrong or not it's just how it is. Knowing that I wouldn't want my daugters reputation being that of a **** or someone who slept with their teacher to get an A in class... If my son did it people would actually praise him instead of bash him. Quick story that reminds me of this and it just happened. Friend of mine (guy) has slept with well over 50 women. A girl he slept with came in his work and I saw her and she was pretty hot. I asked him about her and he mentioned "What!? She slept with everyone! She had at least 50 guys! shes a pig!" Thats just how it is. Right or wrong thats nto the issue. The issue here is what I would expect or want from my children... And YES gender makes a difference. Doesn't mean I will love them differently.

So you prohibit your kids from making their own decisions based PURELY on the preservation of their supposed REPUTATION? I believe it is people like you that foster this kind of double-standard for women and ***. You suppose that is how the world works based on you and your friends' thinking. That's an awful narrow view.

Also, do you not think that your child can make their own decisions with regard to their reputation? Do you dress them so they will have a good REPUTATION? Do you only let them listen to "pop" radio stations so that they will be popular and have a good reputation? Just how concerned are you for their reputation? I couldn't imagine living a life controlled by my own fears of the opinions of others.

 

[Ampz 10+ year member]

Comon flip just ask this one question to ANY parent, male or FEMALE:

If u had a 16 year old son and 16 year old daughter in school. Would you rather hear that your son slept with his 30 year old teacher or your daughter slept with her 30 year old teacher?

You can't answer neither you have to pick one... EVERYONE IS GOING TO PICK THE SON... even u flip lmao

 

[dan7532 10+ year member]

Of course people thought the earth was flat... That example is bad though its totally different from the issue at hand here. People thought the earth was flat because they didnt kmnow any better and didnt have the technology to really know what shape the earth was... This issue there is no guess work. Everything is on the table. People expect different things from men and women... Even if I think its wrong... I can't help myself but feel the same way..

so you admit to following a double standard only because EVERYONE ELSE does too? wow, way to think for yourself.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Comon flip just ask this one question to ANY parent, male or FEMALE:
If u had a 16 year old son and 16 year old daughter in school. Would you rather hear that your son slept with his 30 year old teacher or your daughter slept with her 30 year old teacher?

You can't answer neither you have to pick one... EVERYONE IS GOING TO PICK THE SON... even u flip lmao

I did. There are different expectations. I have already told her she was a bad mother once because she is a fan of those roller-skate shoes, which are very dangerous to the user, as well as others.

I would expect the same level of decision making regardless of gender. If I felt that one of them were not able to make good decision due to mental defect, that would be different...but to "protect" a girl based on percieved difference is sexist and very unfair to my daughter. You are essentially tell your daughter that she is unable to make rational decisions and that males are.

 

[Ampz 10+ year member]

Your right it is about decision making. If my 16 year old son DECIDED to sleep with his 30 year old teacher I would have to say that wasn't a bad decision (if he used protection etc.). If my 16 year old daughter CHOSE to sleep with her 30 year old teacher I would have to say that was a bad decision. You have to look at the consequences of your actions before you do them. And if they both looked at the consequences of those actions a rational person would sleep with the woman if they were a man and WOULDNT sleep with the man if they were a woman. You should see my point here. If I go skiing with a professional skier and he chooses to go down the expert slope that isn't a bad decision but if i in turn choose to go down it, it is a bad decision. Same slope different people. That situation is based on skill of the skier. The other situation is based purely on GENDER. sorry.

 

[dan7532 10+ year member]

Why would you continue to hold and maintain an idea you felt was wrong?

flip put it best.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Your right it is about decision making. If my 16 year old son DECIDED to sleep with his 30 year old teacher I would have to say that wasn't a bad decision (if he used protection etc.). If my 16 year old daughter CHOSE to sleep with her 30 year old teacher I would have to say that was a bad decision.

Please elaborate here. The implication is the decison making skills of females are inferior to the decision making skills of men. The data does not support this claim. At other ages, perhaps, but not at this age.

You have to look at the consequences of your actions before you do them. And if they both looked at the consequences of those actions a rational person would sleep with the woman if they were a man and WOULDNT sleep with the man if they were a woman. You should see my point here. If I go skiing with a professional skier and he chooses to go down the expert slope that isn't a bad decision but if i in turn choose to go down it, it is a bad decision. Same slope different people. That situation is based on skill of the skier. The other situation is based purely on GENDER. sorry.

I do not see your point here. You seem to contradict your point from above where you feel that the consequence of the young male is less than the consequence of the young female.

In your opinion, does the gender of the teacher matter? Does it change your view. What if the young male was sleeping with a 30 year old male?

 

[rumple4skin 10+ year member]

Hell yeah...
just wrap it up..

yes, id have to say i have two sons and the day one of them comes home suspended for ****ing ms. wright..... two thumbs up. as long as hes not dumb enough to think there is something salvageable in a relationship(even if she is emotionally detached enough to think so)as long as its just him figuring shit out I'm all for it, practice makes perfect

 

[Ampz 10+ year member]

Please elaborate here.

Thats simple. Not going to elaborate deeply as you should see my point clearly in few words. Again weither i believe this or not this is how it is. Don't judge my beliefs here because we're not speaking about my belif just about the issue at hand and what I think about the situaion in whole.

Female thinks of consequences of sleeping with teacher; "hrmm everyone is gonna call me a ****, guys aren't going to want to date me, I hope no one finds out, I will be LABELED."

BAD DECISION

Male thinks of consequences of sleeping with teacher; "Boy Steve is gonna be salty as shit when he finds out i slept with ms. (insert name here)!, Can't wait till everyone finds out I'll be like the don in this school".

NOT SUCH A BAD DECISION

Two of the same actions with two different genders makes the decision different.

Would I feel the same way if my 16 year old male slept with his 30 year old male teacher?

That wouldn't be any different. If my son was gay I would already have to worry about him not being socially accepted and that would bother me. I have nothing against gay people but alot of people do and naturally if I could choose I would choose not to have a gay son just because his quality of life COULD be damaged. Notice I said could. Would love him the same if my son was gay or not though.

 

[rumple4skin 10+ year member]

Please elaborate here. The implication is the decison making skills of females are inferior to the decision making skills of men. The data does not support this claim. At other ages, perhaps, but not at this age.


I do not see your point here. You seem to contradict your point from above where you feel that the consequence of the young male is less than the consequence of the young female.

In your opinion, does the gender of the teacher matter? Does it change your view. What if the young male was sleeping with a 30 year old male?

well i guess all that matters there is who's catching(not my kids mind you,this is why i want to see him ****ing ms. wright=)

but really if a older woman is coming up to a young male student you don't think its as bad a think do you??? as a older man doing it to a female

 

[Ampz 10+ year member]

Thats simple. Not going to elaborate deeply as you should see my point clearly in few words. Again weither i believe this or not this is how it is. Don't judge my beliefs here because we're not speaking about my belif just about the issue at hand and what I think about the situaion in whole.
Female thinks of consequences of sleeping with teacher; "hrmm everyone is gonna call me a ****, guys aren't going to want to date me, I hope no one finds out, I will be LABELED."

BAD DECISION

Male thinks of consequences of sleeping with teacher; "Boy Steve is gonna be salty as shit when he finds out i slept with ms. (insert name here)!, Can't wait till everyone finds out I'll be like the don in this school".

NOT SUCH A BAD DECISION

Two of the same actions with two different genders makes the decision different.

Would I feel the same way if my 16 year old male slept with his 30 year old male teacher?

That wouldn't be any different. If my son was gay I would already have to worry about him not being socially accepted and that would bother me. I have nothing against gay people but alot of people do and naturally if I could choose I would choose not to have a gay son just because his quality of life COULD be damaged. Notice I said could. Would love him the same if my son was gay or not though.

Now... This is how it really is in the world we live in now.. You could say that it's a messed up way for people to think and people stereotype different topics, sure thats fine. But in the world we live in now and the stereotypes we have makes the decision ok for the male and wrong for the female. Is it totally wrong? Thats your opinion. I'm not stating my opinion just stating why it would be ok for my son to do it and not for my daughter....

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

How old are you? Just curious...

I only know the status of a couple people with whom I went to high school....and that is because we live in the same neighborhood. I seriously doubt that a label affixed in high school doesn't follow one throughout their lives. That is BS to say the least. I also do not believe that girls have that mindset when considering sleeping with her teacher. The girl next to me slept with her teacher...there was no concern with others thinking she was a ****. There was other concerns.

You are limiting the consequences only to what other people may think. Do you know how females think. I, unfortunately, do not.

When you say your son wouldn't be any different if he were gay. Are you saying that he is in a similar camp as the female in that his decision would be looked upon poorly by others? So it's the young male to older female transaction that is "cool".

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Now... This is how it really is in the world we live in now.. You could say that it's a messed up way for people to think and people stereotype different topics, sure thats fine. But in the world we live in now and the stereotypes we have makes the decision ok for the male and wrong for the female. Is it totally wrong? Thats your opinion. I'm not stating my opinion just stating why it would be ok for my son to do it and not for my daughter....

Don't you see that is an opinion?

The world we lived in 80 years ago thought it was okay for certain people to pass literacy tests to vote. The world we lived in 200 years ago thought it was okay for people to own slaves. So, just because it is "current popular opinion" it does not make it right. If you were explaining to me that there were different standards among men and women, you were wasting your time.

 

[Ampz 10+ year member]

I'm not saying he has a similar cramp as the female in that decision. Sadly I'm saying just from being born gay he may have a rough time in general just for his sexuality. Is it wrong? Sure.