Will the plane take off?? Finally going to be answered.***

[GoochJuice]

in the very first post... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

figures. so you are assuming something as well then.

 

[Mitch86 5,000+ posts]

Ok...now that I understand that a treadmill cant stop a plane, then there is no myth. It's simply "can an airplane take off while moving forward". Of course!

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

Btw hoss, there are more idiots on my side of the arguement than yours....check the poll.. You're not the all knowing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

i never claimed to be all knowing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

however it is entirely possible (and now that im talking to you i really think its true), that i am completely surrounded by drooling tards on this website.

 

[dcole18 5,000+ posts]

a good point to take into consideration.
it could also be affected if the airplane travels at 88 mph at the exact moment lightning strikes the clocktower.

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touche.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

figures. so you are assuming something as well then.

exactly what am i assuming?

 

[myvanpounds 10+ year member]

Ok...now that I understand that a treadmill cant stop a plane, then there is no myth. It's simply "can an airplane take off while moving forward". Of course!

EXACTLY!!!!!!! you have now figured it out now

 

[Mitch86 5,000+ posts]

i never claimed to be all knowing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
however it is entirely possible (and now that im talking to you i really think its true), that i am completely surrounded by drooling tards on this website.

ERMMMMM HUH? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

YES I ASSUME THAT THE PLANE IS SUPPOSED TO BE STATIONARY. THAT IS THE POINT. If the plane is allowed to thrust forward, why would there be any question wether it could take off? That defeats the whole purpose of putting it on a treadmill... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Because people get stuck on the whole treadmill thing, its basically a riddle.

I feel like I have typed this out before.

exactly. why would this even be a myth?

See above

i think if the runway was going the same speed as the plane (not how fast the wheels are rolling) then it couldnt possibly take off seeing as it would have no air speed and no lift
but i dont see how they could possibly make a conveyor belt that could keep up with the planes maximum speed (since the plane would constantly speed up in an attempt to get lift untill it reached maximum speed)

so... if they could make a 1/4 mile long conveyor belt than can spin at 300+mph then the plane cant possibly take off

Edit: after thinking about it the conveyor would have to be going incredibly fast (way faster than the plane, i guess exceeding the limit of how fast the wheels could rotate [i assume there is a limit to this because of friction])

but idk, that just my thoughts on it... ill have to think about it later

Edit#2: i guess im trying to say if they could manage to keep the plane stationary then it couldnt possibly take off... but who knows how fast the conveyor belt would have to be moving to make that happen

Btw hoss, there are more idiots on my side of the arguement than yours....check the poll.. You're not the all knowing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

a good point to take into consideration.
it could also be affected if the airplane travels at 88 mph at the exact moment lightning strikes the clocktower.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Ok...now that I understand that a treadmill cant stop a plane, then there is no myth. It's simply "can an airplane take off while moving forward". Of course!

Some people still dont get it.

I guess I didnt quote whoever said that was the first time they saw the mytch clarified. A while back in this thread I said "its not a standing takeoff" Like a helicopter.

edit: it was on the first page. post #12.

I think I see where the misunderstanding is. The treadmill is *supposed to be* runway length(we will see how they do this). Its not a standing take off. I think this is why the harrier comment was made.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3739046&postcount=12

 

[JLJunkieMX107 10+ year member]

If that video Devillain00 did not make it clear to you then you have no hope.

At first I thought it would not take off but after getting a better understanding I learned the friction caused by the wheels touching the treadmill is EASILY overcome by the thrust of the engine. The treadmill is matching the speed of the plane not the plane matching the treadmill. As the plane gains momentum the treadmill increases speed which only creates more friction on the free spinning wheels which has little effect on the forward momentum of the plane

 

[Mitch86 5,000+ posts]

My arguement has been over run... If the plane can move forward, it flies. And apparently a treadmill will allow a plane to go forward, therefor the plane is going to fly. Hoss dropped that knowledge on me. I totally missed the point of the myth I guess. It's plausable that this myth is gay.

 

[JLJunkieMX107 10+ year member]

The easiest way to think of how this will work is if a plane were on ice and the wheels were locked up, could it still move? Yes, because the forward thrust is made by the jet engine or prop, not by the wheels. The ice example has way more resistance than the conveyor belt. And as somebody stated before, a pontoon plane can still take off in water and there is more resistance in that situation than the conveyor belt also. If you can grasp these principles then it will become obvious to you that the plane can take off.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

I'm a tad cofused. Is the plane travelling at takeoff speed above the conveyor only? Meaning a zero "airspeed"? If so there's no wind speed for lift. If the plane is taking off at an "airspeed" above a treadmill the lift is there.

Kinda tricky wording.

no the plane is under the conveyor belt.

Wtf kind of shit is this?

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

that place is destroying your IQ. stay away!

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

All I know is that Kari Byron is quite hot.

yes

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

there were ***** pics of someone that looks just like her. find them.