why that was nice

Should i start using crystal meth?

  • Sure...its not that bad...

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  • Just say no!

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Sure as hell woulda worked better than the straight-up bailouts. It's purely liquid and far from artificially supporting businesses it actually aids in free market "darwinism". The country's giving up on huge trucks and SUV's and embracing more fuel efficient sedans. I think people are starting to realize what they actually NEED in a vehicle.

 
In his new book, the first Homeland Security chief, Tom Ridge, accuses top aides to President George W. Bush of pressing him to raise the terror alert level to influence the 2004 presidential election.
Ridge, a former Republican governor of Pennsylvania, says that he refused the entreaty just before the election from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to a summary of the book from publisher Thomas Dunne Books.

"After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge, who resigned soon after the election where Bush defeated Democrat John F. Kerry, writes in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."

Ridge's book will only fuel Bush critics, who have long said that his White House used terror threats to distract the public from the unpopular Iraq war.

"In this probing and surefooted memoir, Ridge takes us through the challenges he and his new department faced, including Anthrax scares and reports (both real and false alarms) of new Al-Qaeda operations sprouting up in the United States," says the publisher's summary of the book, scheduled to be out on Sept. 1.

"Ridge writes with refreshing candor on both the successes and missteps of the DHS. He details the obstacles faced in his new post -- often within the administration itself -- as well as the failures of Congress to provide for critical homeland security needs, and the irresponsible use of terrorism by both parties to curry favors with voters," the summary continues.

It says that Ridge also reveals in the book how the department was "pressured to connect homeland security to the international “war on terror;” and how he had "pushed for a plan (defeated because of turf wars) to integrate DHS and FEMA disaster management in New Orleans and other areas before Hurricane Katrina."

Asked about the allegation about the election, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs noted today that current Homeland Security Janet Napolitano launched a study whether to scrap the color-coded system, which critics say is ineffective and confusing.

"Decisions regarding the terror threat should be made based on the rise and fall of that threat, not based on anything else," Gibbs told reporters.
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When the dealers get reimbursed then maybe it will be a success. Not thrilled that those of us that don't have clunkers have more of their grand-childrens tax dollars being burned.
If you want to ***** about tax dollar waste, the C4C program is totally the wrong one to target. This actually does something good. It gets the economy jump-started by having money quickly passing from hand to hand, eliminates lots of fuel-hungry high-emission vehicles, rewards auto companies that focus on efficiency and value, and did so with a FAR smaller cost than the more big-time stim ideas.

$3B is chump change compared to the monetary black hole that is the Iraq War, amongst others.

 
I know the dealers are making money off of it because when they take the cars to the junkyard to be crushed they get $1,000 for every car.
no.

Do I get any money for my trade in vehicle in addition to the CARS credit?

YES. The law requires your trade-in vehicle be destroyed. The dealer must disclose to you the scrap value of your vehicle. The dealer is entitled to keep up to $50 of the scrap value for administrative fees. You are entitled to negotiate about who keeps the remaining scrap value. For example, you may use that money toward the price of your new car separate from the CARS credit.

 
no.

Do I get any money for my trade in vehicle in addition to the CARS credit?

YES. The law requires your trade-in vehicle be destroyed. The dealer must disclose to you the scrap value of your vehicle. The dealer is entitled to keep up to $50 of the scrap value for administrative fees. You are entitled to negotiate about who keeps the remaining scrap value. For example, you may use that money toward the price of your new car separate from the CARS credit.
SO who determines the value of the clunker? I just took parts off an 87 Monte that they were overcharging for. Door panels, and the stereo bezel were mint, but they wanted more than 100 for the stuff. I talked them down to 75 out the door. The junker can easily make a grand off that car, but that's slow money. And they have to destroy the car within a certain period of time.

So with that being said, everybody wins. I win because I can find decent parts for my car. The auto industry can sell cars. Buyers get a new car, sellers are moving product.

 
I think they all lie to get into the white house so it don't matter.
agreed. it isn't a revelation that someone cheated in politics, nor is it a surprise that a liberal pointed this out. they'd find a way to blame bush if they couldn't get their dick hard.

 
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