why that was nice

[Mike465 10+ year member]

Haha, are you suposed to take a shit in that.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

pics of squat toilets!

this is the only one i took.. this is a pretty nice one.. the really bad ones i couldnt stay in long enough for pics..



I saw a couple without running water.. there was a bucket of water with a ladle and you were supposed to pour the water yourself to flush.. it didnt work very well and there was a massive shit sitting in it.. i also saw several places where they were all in a row... like toilets.. except there was no divider wall between them..

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

this sounds like a positive to me. People can get cheaper houses and businesses will pay less rent and be able to pass that savings onto the customers.

But at what cost? How many employed americans and taxeble income are you willing to lose in order to save a few thousand dollars on a house. More illegals = less jobs for legals = less taxable income = more taxes for you and me to pay. Add on top having to pay more taxes for their kids getting free education and health care...wonderful.

Yep, I'm sure that every penny a business save goes straight to the customer. All it really means is that the head guys get more money and can purchase more extravagant things.

he did. He paid a sales tax and i bet it was more than a cent.

I'll rephrase it, illegals don't pay a cent of federal income taxes...better? Or are you going to play semantics again when you obviously know what I'm referring to?

Are you saying we should provide some amount of basic health care for everyone, citizen or not? I guess it would be cheaper than treating everyone without insurance in the ER.

If you're not legal, then you shouldn't be provided anything, period.

No way we could actually deport them all with the limitations of our modern state.

Tis a shame we can't though.

America is a big place though. If you hate them you could move out of Texas to avoid them.

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[zthumper 10+ year member]

America is a big place though. If you hate them you could move out of Texas to avoid them.

I'll have to disagree good sir

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Yep, I'm sure that every penny a business save goes straight to the customer. All it really means is that the head guys get more money and can purchase more extravagant things

I never claimed this. Just that the overall decrease in rent would eventually be passed onto consumers. All it takes is one business to drop its prices and increase its market share for others to follow suit. A blanket cut like this would eventually trickle down.

I'll rephrase it, illegals don't pay a cent of federal income taxes...better? Or are you going to play semantics again when you obviously know what I'm referring to?

Some immigrants pay federal income taxes using fraudulently obtained SS numbers.

If you're not legal, then you shouldn't be provided anything, period.

But you were just complaining about how much their ER care costs. Why not save a few bucks and treat them in a normal doctors office instead? We're never going to just let people die in American hospitals so why are you advocating that we give illegal aliens the most expensive health care option there is?

Tis a shame we can't though.

Also a shame we cant all fly and be rich without having to work... but its not an option so what's your point?

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There are many places in America with substantially less illegal immigrants than Texas. You could easily get away if you wanted to.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

I'll have to disagree good sir

you think America is small?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Advertisers deserting Fox News' Glenn BeckCable host calls Obama 'racist' and sponsors move to distance themselves

By William Spain, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- In what is shaping up to be one of the more effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the "Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated hatred for white people."

Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway ; Procter & Gamble ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance , according to the companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign against the program.

Beck, who made the remarks during another Fox News program late last month, is among the network's biggest draws, pulling in an average of about 2 million viewers. (Fox News is a unit of News Corp. , which also owns MarketWatch, the publisher of this report.)

Geico didn't respond to a request for comment but sent Color of Change an email saying it had "instructed its ad-buying service to redistribute its inventory of rotational spots on [Fox] to their other network programs, exclusive of the Glenn Beck program."

Privately held Sargento told its media buyer not to put any of its ads in Beck's show, said a spokeswoman.

"We market our products to people regardless of their political affiliations," she said. "Yet we do not want to be associated with hateful speech used by either liberal or conservative television hosts."

Because of the way ad time is often bought on cable -- in bulk and with an eye toward demographics and so-called day parts -- some of the targeted companies' ads may well have ended up on the program by mistake and in violation of their own standards. If so, it was an error that some advertisers vowed not to repeat.

"We place advertising on a variety of programming with the goal of reaching a broad range of insurance consumers who might be interested in our products," said a spokeswoman for Progressive. "We also seek to avoid advertising on programming that our customers or potential customers may find extremely offensive."

The Glenn Beck show wasn't "targeted," she added, and "any advertising that may have appeared on the show was a result of an error."

P&G didn't respond to a request for comment, but one news report quoted a spokesperson as saying that "at times our ads are run by mistake on shows that they were not meant to" and that the company would "try to be more careful in the future."

Color of Change is using a 600,000-member electronic mailing list to urge people to sign a petition that is then forwarded to Beck's sponsors. The group was founded in the wake of the Hurricane Katrina disaster to promote "racial progress," said James Rucker, its executive director, adding that this was the first time the group had been involved in an action of this kind.

"We have seen rhetoric that is destructive and divisive before, but taking a platform that is supposed to be for news and analysis and using it to stoke racial animosity just crossed the line," Rucker said.

The group also contacts advertisers directly but has yet to call on its members to boycott their products or bombard them with phone calls, Rucker said, instead giving companies the opportunity "to be responsible corporate citizens."

Rucker added that he "absolutely expects" other advertisers to follow suit and drop out because the wave of defections "raises the stakes for them to stick around."

For its part, Fox News said through a spokeswoman that while some advertisers have "removed their spots from Beck," they have just shifted to "other programs on the network, so there has been no revenue lost."

She also cited an earlier statement by Bill Shine, the channel's senior vice president of programming, that "Glenn Beck expressed a personal opinion which represented his own views, not those of the Fox News Channel. And as with all commentators in the cable news arena, he is given the freedom to express his opinions."

Adding fuel to the fire is Donny Deutsch, a TV personality and head of the ad agency Deutsch Inc., which is part of the Interpublic Group . He, too, called for a boycott of Beck's show, saying on the air on the business-news channel CNBC that "this has to stop," and the "only way this stops" is if sponsors pull their support.

He went on to read a list of companies that advertise on Beck's show, including Pfizer and Kraft Foods.

The pharmaceutical giant isn't backing down yet, telling MarketWatch that it hasn't made any changes in its media buying.

"Our main focus is to make all consumers aware of important information about health and wellness, and the best way to do this is through a broad range of advertising environments," said a Pfizer spokeswoman.

Kraft was a bit more noncommittal. "Because of the diversity of our consumers, Kraft Foods will continue to advertise on a wide range of networks and programs," said a spokeswoman. "We make every attempt to place our commercials on programs with universal appeal. It is our policy not to advertise on programs with extreme or inflammatory content or images on any network."

Ad boycotts driven by viewer anger or corporate caution over broadcast content have been a staple of the American television business for decades. Few have been successful in any long-term way.

Several companies pulled ads from ABC's "Desperate Housewives" at one point, but they were quickly replaced, and the show went to become one of network TV's biggest moneymakers. Ditto an all-out attempt in the 1990s by the American Family Association to boycott "NYPD Blue" even before it went on the air. After a rough start, the show became one of the most popular in prime time and attracted advertisers by the score.

By contrast, when Bill Maher was hosting "Politically Incorrect," his comments about the relative courage of the terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, set off a firestorm. Several big companies including Fedex and Sears Holding yanked their ads, and some affiliates refused to run the show. It eventually dwindled away and was canceled early the next year, although Maher himself now has a popular program on ad-free HBO.

For advertisers, "the halo of the show means you are connected with supporting that point of view," said John Greening, a Northwestern University professor of marketing who spent 28 years in the advertising business. "It is not about awareness but about association."

"Beck's demagoguery crossed the line of the socially expected taste level, and I can't think of a company on the planet who wants to be a part of that conversation," Greening said. "It is a no-brainer to pull your ads."

Whether the show can survive with advertisers deserting it depends on whether they can replaced and how much money Fox News is prepared to lose before pulling the plug.

It also, Greening said, "depends on Beck's level of contrition or how he explains it. But unless he does something to rehabilitate himself, he has probably crossed the line into obscurity."

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[Andrizzle 10+ year member]

Sounds like CA.com can jump on an ad spot for the show.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Sounds like he's on THIN ICE

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

**** Obama. Stupid primitive monkey in a suit.

 

[hornedfrog1985 5,000+ posts]

Mattf will not stand for this!

 

[Ohioguy 10+ year member]

hahaha.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Get this disgrace to his race out of here!

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

ignorance is contagious and foxnews continues to spread it with reckless abandon

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

ignorance is contagious and foxnews continues to spread it with reckless abandon

Indeed. But it's not as contagious as pure stupidity. The American people got bent over and ***** in the *** when those poles closed. First black president? Definition of change? Hope? Nope. Americans, once again, were convinced that this man was everything they needed and then some. Guess where our troops are? Dying in Iraq. They were supposed to be pulled out ASAP. Everyone that voted for Obama was a sucker and they got roped right in. He is nothing but a fake and liar. I'm perfectly content with my decision, I didn't vote for anyone and I never will.