why that was nice

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

No Children

I hope that our few remaining friends

Give up on trying to save us

I hope we come up with a failsafe plot

To piss off the dumb few that forgave us

I hope the fences we mended

Fall down beneath their own weight

And I hope we hang on past the last exit

I hope it's already too late

And I hope the junkyard a few blocks from here

Someday burns down

And I hope the rising black smoke carries me far away

And I never come back to this town

Again in my life

I hope I lie

And tell everyone you were a good wife

And I hope you die

I hope we both die

I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow

I hope it bleeds all day long

Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises

We're pretty sure they're all wrong

I hope it stays dark forever

I hope the worst isn't over

And I hope you blink before I do

Yeah I hope I never get sober

And I hope when you think of me years down the line

You can't find one good thing to say

And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out

You'd stay the hell out of my way

I am drowning

There is no sign of land

You are coming down with me

Hand in unlovable hand

And I hope you die

I hope we both die

how can you not like wuv songs like this?

 

[LOW S-10 10+ year member]

I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow

Are you Emo???

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

If he sigged me he cannot be emo. I make Milton Friedman look emo.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

Maybe.....this girl tonight told me to slow down. I haven't been laid since Feb. My penis doesn't know the meaning of slow down. I could have banger her in the ear.

lucky ur not black, or else she could sue u for causing her to lose her hearing

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

im elmo.

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

bah

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

lucky ur not black, or else she could sue u for causing her to lose her hearing

I'm black

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Shoppers will be able to compare the Camry and Accord to the Saturn Aura and, shortly, to the new Chevrolet Malibu as well.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer

POSTED: 3:02 p.m. EDT, May 25, 2007

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- If you want to test drive a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord, starting next month you'll be able to do it at a Saturn dealership. General Motors is asking Saturn dealers to have one or more of the competing models in the showroom so customers can look at it, sit in it and drive it.

Of course, Saturn dealers can't sell you an Accord or Camry. But they hope that, when you see a Toyota or Honda sedan next to the Saturn Aura, you'll decide to buy the Aura.

"In that side-by-side comparison, we come out really well," said Mark LaNeve, head of North American sales and marketing for General Motors.

Later this year, Chevrolet dealers will be doing the same thing as they introduce customers to the redesigned Chevrolet Malibu, which shares its engineering platform with the Aura.

In focus group research, GM has shown potential customers new GM models next to competing vehicles with all brand identifications removed and, said LaNeve, customers have reacted well to the GM products.

Another advantage for GM dealers in having competing products on site is that customers may not need to set foot in a competing dealership before making a purchase decision.

"I think we can stand up to the comparison," said Wade Hoyt, a Toyota spokesman.

Auto salespeople always research the competition, he said, and prepare advantageous comparisons to offer customers considering another product.

"They talk down the competition all the time," said Hoyt, "so this is just taking it one step further"

According to industry newspaper Automotive News, sales for the Saturn Aura, which was voted Car of the Year by automotive journalists in January, 2007, have been disappointing for GM. So far this year, about 18,000 Auras have been sold, according to Autodata, a company that tracks car sales.

Part of the reason GM is willing to take this step, said LaNeve, is because the company has little to lose. Midsized sedan shoppers often don't even consider GM products, he said, instead going straight to Honda and Toyota dealers.

The Toyota Camry and Honda Accord are now the two best-selling cars in America.

"Over the course of a few years that became the default choice," said LaNeve.

GM has sold about 48,400 of the current version of the Malibu so far this year. Meanwhile, Toyota has sold about 145,000 Camrys.

GM wouldn't even consider doing something like this with its SUVs, said LaNeve. GM currently holds about a 70 percent market share in large SUVs, so there would be little to gain from bringing Toyota Sequoias into Chevrolet dealerships to compare to the Tahoe.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/05/25/gm_vs_camry/index.html

 

[CaliforniabOY5 10+ year member]

Neato!

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Quite an interesting tactic. I wouldn't own anything else besides GM anyway.

Take my S-10. It's pretty much the same truck from 94-03 That's 10 years of replacement parts, body panels, expertise on these trucks.

Take Nissan or Toyota, they redesign vehicles every couple years.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif @ buying a saturn.

They are worth about as much as a polished turn when you try to trade them in.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You have to establish brand superity somehow.

Cars just don't magically have good resale value. It's a slow, evolutionary process.

In the 70s, Honda, Nissan, Toyota wasn't worth the scrap metal they made cars from. To say they won't fall ever is quite a statement.

What I am curious is the sell of Chrystler to Cerbrus. I think it will set a precendent on breaking the back of the union's legacy costs. I think it will be a good thing to allow GM, Ford, etc to compete again.

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

When I worked in the body shop, a smashed up 1995 toyota camry came in. $8k repair and it didn't total! Had 120k miles on it. Why didn't it total? Because it had a high resale value because people are stupid enough to believe that they are good cars. But thats how big companies make money, praying on the minds of the stupid and uneducated.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

I'm sure the Accord and Camry will be the crappiest version and stripped down by the dealer. That would be the only way to get people to like the Aura over the other two //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif