why that was nice

[scarolina 10+ year member]

How is planting nutrient rich food, make the deer think its safe. At my hunting club we dont kill anything under 4 years old anyways.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Since the dawn of time Man has hunted to survive. From the Ice age hunters killing Mammoths, to the Eskimos hunting whale and walrus, to the Indians hunting buffalo, to the modern day hunter with white tail, turkey, and other game.
Hunting was used as a means to survive. Food, clothing, hunting tools, and all sorts of items were used from the carcass...Including money.

I do agree that hundreds of years ago up to or around the early to middle 20th century some animals fell to extension or close due to over hunting. The humpback whale, the buffalo, the white tail (yes they were also dieing out at one point in time), walrus, as well as many other animals.

Today hunting is not only still used as a means for food, but its also a sport, and animal population control. With out this control the animal and our own food supply would/could be at a major risk. These animals that were nearly wiped out by our hands are now full in number and watched close to ensure that they will be around for a long time. Our game and fish commission is doing an excellent job at preserving our animal population.

You may think what you want about inhumane or murder, but the fact is, we have been hunting since our creation. You can not argue against that.

I feel that any type of hunting is fine as long as one thing...the animal is used in food. Sport, fun, leisure, or any type, as long as the animal isnt simply discarded it is OK in my mind.

You say that we are killing innocent animals, but you see, we are the top of the food chain. We are and were created smarter then the deer, just as the lion was created with sharp teeth and claws to trap and kill its antelope prey. Our claws and teeth are guns and arrows. There is no difference.

I can go on with this if you wish to continue our conversation. I hope that since you have the ability to make threads that are your opinion and one sided, you have the intellect to sit and hear/read the other side.

this is 2007 not 1492. with technology and and the creation of civilized races, we no longer need to get our muskets and loyn clothes and hunt animals to survive. just like everything else, we must evolve with the times. we don't need to prey on deer to survive. cattle, chickens, and pigs are predetermined sources of food. they offer us all the essentials we need to survive. deer just offer meat, which can be obatined through the other animals i mentioned

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

How is planting nutrient rich food, make the deer think its safe. At my hunting club we dont kill anything under 4 years old anyways.

you lure a stray deer to a spot with food. after awhile the deer thinks it's safe to sit and eat, until the one day when you have an orgasm and shoot the deer while it's eating

 

[scarolina 10+ year member]

Most people dont even plant food plots And its not luring stray deer in. The deer that are there eat what ever is there. Its like replacing all the mcdonalds and burger kings with subways fresh fit meals. The deer will eat the healthier food, and live a overall healthier life. At a good managment club you wont shoot a deer unless its atleast 4-5 years old and by that time they have done just about everything with there life anyways. And how is cattle our predetermined food is there a menu i missed somewhere.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Most people dont even plant food plots And its not luring stray deer in. The deer that are there eat what ever is there. Its like replacing all the mcdonalds and burger kings with subways fresh fit meals. The deer will eat the healthier food, and live a overall healthier life. At a good managment club you wont shoot a deer unless its atleast 4-5 years old and by that time they have done just about everything with there life anyways. And how is cattle our predetermined food is there a menu i missed somewhere.

cows give us milk, and they have to be milked daily by humans in order to survive. this should be a sign that cows were destined to be here to feed us. without milk, there would be a lot of food would couldn't make.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

this is 2007 not 1492. with technology and and the creation of civilized races, we no longer need to get our muskets and loyn clothes and hunt animals to survive. just like everything else, we must evolve with the times. we don't need to prey on deer to survive. cattle, chickens, and pigs are predetermined sources of food. they offer us all the essentials we need to survive. deer just offer meat, which can be obatined through the other animals i mentioned

And what about all the animals that your Detriot has killed or destroyed their habitat creating your city?

You see, 1492, 2007, it doesnt matter. Wild game food is less fatty, and isnt "processed" therefor it is the most natural and cleanest meat you can get.

You really think that the guy who has the club with a .22 round wacking a cow on the head is more humane and better then the hunter that sits in a tree for days, or tracks game for days to maybe take one or two shots at an animal? Or the ckicken who is stuck in a cage with lights that never turn off, and they are allowed to eat their own shit? or pigs? do I really need to go into the pigs?

I dont...

Pretty good link to why its in out nature to hunt. http://www.frombearcreek.com/nonfiction/why_hunt.htm

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

And what about all the animals that your Detriot has killed or destroyed their habitat creating your city?
You see, 1492, 2007, it doesnt matter. Wild game food is less fatty, and isnt "processed" therefor it is the most natural and cleanest meat you can get.

You really think that the guy who has the club with a .22 round wacking a cow on the head is more humane and better then the hunter that sits in a tree for days, or tracks game for days to maybe take one or two shots at an animal? Or the ckicken who is stuck in a cage with lights that never turn off, and they are allowed to eat their own shit? or pigs? do I really need to go into the pigs?

I dont...

Pretty good link to why its in out nature to hunt. http://www.frombearcreek.com/nonfiction/why_hunt.htm

that was the 1500's //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif the french and indians killed all the animals for the fur. again a totally ridiculous analogy, comparing the french and indians of the 1500's to a modern day city

how about then, you fight for animal rights and more humane ways of killing the animals, instead of saying **** it, i'll just go kill deer. i also highly doubt you don't eat any processed meat.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

that was the 1500's //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif the french and indians killed all the animals for the fur. again a totally ridiculous analogy, comparing the french and indians of the 1500's to a modern day city
how about then, you fight for animal rights and more humane ways of killing the animals, instead of saying **** it, i'll just go kill deer. i also highly doubt you don't eat any processed meat.

French maybe, but not the indians...they used every part of the animal. WE were the ones that F'd up the population, not them.

I never said that I didnt eat processed meat. I simply asked you if you felt that a club with a .22 round to the head was more humane and less "murder" then a hunter with a gun who works for his food...

We may have technology that far surpasses the 1500's, but why do we still have war, murder, and other things that are human nature? We all still have preditorial habits and feelings. Every time you want to strangle someone for cutting you off in traffic...its all the same. Society has changed, but we are still linked to the past.

I also explained that killing deer is for food and population control, not because I gave up on wacking a cow in the head.

Honestly, do you really feel that hunting is wrong and that killing a cow, chicken, or pig is ok?

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

French maybe, but not the indians...they used every part of the animal. WE were the ones that F'd up the population, not them.
I never said that I didnt eat processed meat. I simply asked you if you felt that a club with a .22 round to the head was more humane and less "murder" then a hunter with a gun who works for his food...

We may have technology that far surpasses the 1500's, but why do we still have war, murder, and other things that are human nature? We all still have preditorial habits and feelings. Every time you want to strangle someone for cutting you off in traffic...its all the same. Society has changed, but we are still linked to the past.

I also explained that killing deer is for food and population control, not because I gave up on wacking a cow in the head.

Honestly, do you really feel that hunting is wrong and that killing a cow, chicken, or pig is ok?

I did this last night and still wondering when the cops are coming to arrest me. Just human nature I will tell them.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

ZOMG don't forget teh fishermanz either. Thems evil killers too!

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

I did this last night and still wondering when the cops are coming to arrest me. Just human nature I will tell them.

Maybe my analogy was a little extreme...thanks for the sarcasm.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

French maybe, but not the indians...they used every part of the animal. WE were the ones that F'd up the population, not them.
I never said that I didnt eat processed meat. I simply asked you if you felt that a club with a .22 round to the head was more humane and less "murder" then a hunter with a gun who works for his food...

We may have technology that far surpasses the 1500's, but why do we still have war, murder, and other things that are human nature? We all still have preditorial habits and feelings. Every time you want to strangle someone for cutting you off in traffic...its all the same. Society has changed, but we are still linked to the past.

I also explained that killing deer is for food and population control, not because I gave up on wacking a cow in the head.

Honestly, do you really feel that hunting is wrong and that killing a cow, chicken, or pig is ok?

you are from texas, so tell me why bush and the republicans are in this war?

cows were pre destined to be our source of food. what other animal besides domesticated dogs and cats need human attention like cows? that shows they were destined to belong to humans and to support humans

also the indians sold the furs to the french. the french didn't come hear and trap them. the indians killed the animals and sold the furs.

since we are on indians, why don't we **** and pillage indian reservations since they did that back in the 1500's?

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

you are from texas, so tell me why bush and the republicans are in this war? I dont like bush. War is for cheap oil //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
cows were pre destined to be our source of food. what other animal besides domesticated dogs and cats need human attention like cows? that shows they were destined to belong to humans and to support humans Split hoofed animals, fish, and poltry are all meant to be food...been that way since the beginning of time //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

also the indians sold the furs to the french. the french didn't come hear and trap them. the indians killed the animals and sold the furs. I cant disagree with that...but they didnt just leave the meat either. Therefor the Indians gained money off the hunting as well as food. Which I said in my original post.

since we are on indians, why don't we **** and pillage indian reservations since they did that back in the 1500's? Cause that is wrong. You still didnt answer my question.

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[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

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what is the question i didn't answer?

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

French maybe, but not the indians...they used every part of the animal. WE were the ones that F'd up the population, not them.
I never said that I didnt eat processed meat. I simply asked you if you felt that a club with a .22 round to the head was more humane and less "murder" then a hunter with a gun who works for his food...

We may have technology that far surpasses the 1500's, but why do we still have war, murder, and other things that are human nature? We all still have preditorial habits and feelings. Every time you want to strangle someone for cutting you off in traffic...its all the same. Society has changed, but we are still linked to the past.

I also explained that killing deer is for food and population control, not because I gave up on wacking a cow in the head.

Honestly, do you really feel that hunting is wrong and that killing a cow, chicken, or pig is ok?

what is the question i didn't answer?

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