It's not just black people; everything I said can be applied to Hispanics and Native Americans.
And I'm going to ignore your obviously uneducated and ignorant comment on the confederate flag issue.
And I'm going to ignore your obviously uneducated and ignorant comment on the confederate flag issue.
this is the funniest thread ive read on here.. lets see how many questions i can answer..
i know alot of drug dealers.. most of em i know is fake but i do know some real ones.. the real ones do it because they have to to survive.. they make money (spend some and put some away) but the fake ones do it cause they think its the thing to do.. kids round here grow up watchin friends and family do it and think its the way to make money
i know alot of drug dealers.. most of em i know is fake but i do know some real ones.. the real ones do it because they have to to survive.. they make money (spend some and put some away) but the fake ones do it cause they think its the thing to do.. kids round here grow up watchin friends and family do it and think its the way to make money
Alright, I read the first 3 pages and didn't feel like reading the rest before getting my two cents in.
I am a white male living in South Carolina and I attend a public school with around 2,500 students, about 65% of which are African-American. I am 18, have lived in Sumter since I was 4 and have gone through the public education system from elementary school through high school. This past year I was co-captain of the number 1 ranked basketball team in the state and I am the class of 2007 valedictorian.
That being said, my girlfriend of 11 months is black. She too will graduate this year, and is number 8 in the class (550 people). So it's not like anything I'm about to say is off-base, uncultured, or non-authentic.
We are both attending Clemson University in the fall, I'm studying bioengineering and she is pre-med (wants to be a neuroscientist).
All around me are the black kids who come from the hood - they are the rest of the basketball team. They glorify ***, drugs, and gangs. It's a reality down here, as it is in most places. However, very few of them will make it out of the hood to go onto college or high paying jobs for a couple of real reasons: they can't afford it, they dont want to, they haven't worked hard enough in school, or they have too many discipline problems to be considered anywhere for college or a job.
Referring to the reasons for the discrepancies between white and black/minority representation in college and higher-paying jobs, I think it is because of limiting factors that can and cannot sometimes be helped.
Limiting factors that can be helped:
These kids and I have had the same academic choices to make. Do our homework? Study for tests? Learn how to read? Go to class? Respect our teachers? Challenge ourselves? Look out for ourselves? Get the most we can out of each class? Some kids make a conscious effort not to make the right decisions, and that has nothing to do with race, that's a mindset that stems from what goes on at home, what you watch on tv, and if you let other things make decisions for you. However, being thugs and living in the ghettos is glamorized by hip hop culture which is obviously dominated by African-Americans.
Limiting factors that cannot be helped:
Home situations - My parents helped me with my homework, provided me with a safe place to live and study, and gave me money so I wouldn't sacrifice my schoolwork to get a job. Some kids suffer because of the decisions their parents made, and what's worse is that it becomes a cycle that they cannot escape.
There are a lot of other factors that exist that affect the path a child will take, and I think that these factors are related to race. But I do not think they are the fault of that race, it is instead an enormous issue of our day that has no simple solution.
I don't think that it's at all intelligent to say "white people are stupid and evil." Everybody fights for what they get to some degree, but for some, no matter how hard they fight, they can't do anything to help themselves because they're surrounded by an environment that is not the least bit condusive to their success. I hope that this will be able to change somehow over time, but I don't think its the fault of the blacks who are struggling nor the whites who are succeeding, because there are plenty from each race in each category. Those are my thoughts, hope I don't offend anyone, because I really was not intending to do so. Now back to the NBA Playoffs. GO SUNS!!!
I am a white male living in South Carolina and I attend a public school with around 2,500 students, about 65% of which are African-American. I am 18, have lived in Sumter since I was 4 and have gone through the public education system from elementary school through high school. This past year I was co-captain of the number 1 ranked basketball team in the state and I am the class of 2007 valedictorian.
That being said, my girlfriend of 11 months is black. She too will graduate this year, and is number 8 in the class (550 people). So it's not like anything I'm about to say is off-base, uncultured, or non-authentic.
We are both attending Clemson University in the fall, I'm studying bioengineering and she is pre-med (wants to be a neuroscientist).
All around me are the black kids who come from the hood - they are the rest of the basketball team. They glorify ***, drugs, and gangs. It's a reality down here, as it is in most places. However, very few of them will make it out of the hood to go onto college or high paying jobs for a couple of real reasons: they can't afford it, they dont want to, they haven't worked hard enough in school, or they have too many discipline problems to be considered anywhere for college or a job.
Referring to the reasons for the discrepancies between white and black/minority representation in college and higher-paying jobs, I think it is because of limiting factors that can and cannot sometimes be helped.
Limiting factors that can be helped:
These kids and I have had the same academic choices to make. Do our homework? Study for tests? Learn how to read? Go to class? Respect our teachers? Challenge ourselves? Look out for ourselves? Get the most we can out of each class? Some kids make a conscious effort not to make the right decisions, and that has nothing to do with race, that's a mindset that stems from what goes on at home, what you watch on tv, and if you let other things make decisions for you. However, being thugs and living in the ghettos is glamorized by hip hop culture which is obviously dominated by African-Americans.
Limiting factors that cannot be helped:
Home situations - My parents helped me with my homework, provided me with a safe place to live and study, and gave me money so I wouldn't sacrifice my schoolwork to get a job. Some kids suffer because of the decisions their parents made, and what's worse is that it becomes a cycle that they cannot escape.
There are a lot of other factors that exist that affect the path a child will take, and I think that these factors are related to race. But I do not think they are the fault of that race, it is instead an enormous issue of our day that has no simple solution.
I don't think that it's at all intelligent to say "white people are stupid and evil." Everybody fights for what they get to some degree, but for some, no matter how hard they fight, they can't do anything to help themselves because they're surrounded by an environment that is not the least bit condusive to their success. I hope that this will be able to change somehow over time, but I don't think its the fault of the blacks who are struggling nor the whites who are succeeding, because there are plenty from each race in each category. Those are my thoughts, hope I don't offend anyone, because I really was not intending to do so. Now back to the NBA Playoffs. GO SUNS!!!
4runnercrazy
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Mattchu
okay indians, not native americans, should be kicked off their reservations becasue just cuz they are in a tribe should mean they get to run a casino...........and mexicans who cares about them, most of them cant speak english and most of them are illegal
hahah sry the fact that a southerner said im not educated made me giggle like a little school girl.................it is the united states (one union) unlike how u guys wanted two, we won, you lost..............ur more butt hurt than the french after they got their ***** handed to them in WWII:*******:
4runnercrazy
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do it!
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I read the shortests posts on the first page and thats it....this thread is pretty lame.
1. theres racism and what? you cant stop, never gonna happen. you cant please everyone
2. there are always great people with great qualities in each race and there are always stupid and mean people in every race.
3. some white people take religion to the max, like that fat biatch i saw on trading wives, it was hilarious, yet sad, and they believe things are a certain way and whatnot
4. not talkin crap about white people from the above statement, but refer to #2 and apply to each race
5. lets move on to #6
6. 90% of the people in the US are idiots...i come across them all the time
7. people talkin crap about latinos sayin they should work harder, get an education, all that crap...lets see the ones that take the jobs such as gardening and whatnot leave their jobs and look what happens. they take the jobs to support their families, at least theyre making an effort
8. people are always gonna complain, deal with it
9. buy kingspade's new album titled PTB...its bad ***
10. feel free to comment.
1. theres racism and what? you cant stop, never gonna happen. you cant please everyone
2. there are always great people with great qualities in each race and there are always stupid and mean people in every race.
3. some white people take religion to the max, like that fat biatch i saw on trading wives, it was hilarious, yet sad, and they believe things are a certain way and whatnot
4. not talkin crap about white people from the above statement, but refer to #2 and apply to each race
5. lets move on to #6
6. 90% of the people in the US are idiots...i come across them all the time
7. people talkin crap about latinos sayin they should work harder, get an education, all that crap...lets see the ones that take the jobs such as gardening and whatnot leave their jobs and look what happens. they take the jobs to support their families, at least theyre making an effort
8. people are always gonna complain, deal with it
9. buy kingspade's new album titled PTB...its bad ***
10. feel free to comment.
in short:
to the african americans: your ancestors suffered. not you. you should get no privelages over anyone else. your ancestors suffered and died for equality. now you ***** when you dont get your way and call it racism. your not trying to get equality anymore, but superiority. Why should a white man who is more qualified than the black man lose a job or college entrance just because the college or company is trying to meet a "quota" (illigal to set a quota now but they still do it becuase they are obligated to for diversity purposes)
please take note this does not pertain to all of your arguements, i do agree with a lot you said now and in threads ive read from you in thepast (thread creator)
4runnercrazy
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Mattchu
agree 99.9% cuz i kinda got lost and didn't read all of it
4runnercrazy
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Mattchu
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This thread should not have been started where young immature ignorant white kids do post. A lot of these posts had very mature points recognizing the problem, but realizing it is obviously impossible to eliminate racism in any way shape or form. It's just never gonna happen. But if this angers you, then why post a topic that has been getting the same ignorant responses you are referring to? Some white people do understand, but the ones that don't, you can not mold them into something they are not. Nothing will change them.
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