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[dan7532 10+ year member]

America's Biggest Threat???

The Great American Challenge

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[joshpoints 10+ year member]

hmm, so we had intelligence supporting the notion that there were no WMD and we still used it as a premise for invasion? hmmm...

So what you're saying is there was a big conspiracy between Clinton and Bush to say that he was a threat? Both Clinton and Bush said the exact samething so I'm going to go on a limb and say intelligence supported this while both were in office.

 

[Vicodin113 10+ year member]

midgets............................

Drunk Midgets with ******.

I was visting a friend at his college and 4 midgets ran buy drunk with ******... 2 guys and 2 girls.

Weirdest shit ive ever seen in my life.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

So what you're saying is there was a big conspiracy between Clinton and Bush to say that he was a threat? Both Clinton and Bush said the exact samething so I'm going to go on a limb and say intelligence supported this while both were in office.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif only one of them decided to invade the country. Clinton didnt start a war that is lasting longer than ww2, that is costing us trillions of dollars and creating a new generation of fanatical anti-american jihadist. Bush was the one claiming, or at least eluding, that saddam was somehow responsible for 9/11; bush constantly to this day tries to tie his 'war on terror' with his Iraq mess.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Like I said, falling oil prices could mean a slowdown/coming recession in our economy. Our economy runs on oil, if firms have decided to start cutting down on shipments/airfare etc.. oil would come down in price, which it has. Again, nobody can possibly know for sure why oil is coming down right now. If you study trends in the economy, you would see sudden drops in oil prices preceeding our 3 or 4 most recent recessions. Alot of economists would support this theory right now. If you want to see some more pretty ominous evidence to support a coming recession, study this yield curve of 10 year and 3 month Treasury Bonds.(click for bigger image)



See those gray vertical bars? Those show past recessions in our economy. Notice that they ALL come very soon after the yield dips below zero. Though this curve is not exactly to date, I can tell you right now we are under the zero mark.

Economist have their problems with their own theories. Like many believe energy can't cause inflation. All products prices are connected with energy so essentially it can cause inflation.

But back to your point. I think I see what you are saying. I believe I initially misinterpreted it. I was thinking you said low gas prices are bad for the economy. You were really saying dropping prices may be a sign of a recessionin the future. I would say if we do go into a recession one of the main causes was insanely high energy prices. People are relying on credit to stay afloat with the prices. Like I say above all things are linked to energy prices. If energy prices go up so does food and all other products because they are transported using energy. The price of everything goes up. Credit has allowed the economy to continue running but has also created inflation because more money is essentially entering the market (not in savings). Problem is credit can only last as a crutch so long and I think OPEC is going to cut supply to leave prices at $3+. I hope we become totally independent energy wise so we can tell OPEC to go screw themselves.

 

[bimma85 5,000+ posts]

Our government?

I mean for christ sake....George Bush and John Kerry(think thats his name lol).

That is the best we could come up with? WTF //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

BTW, is this thread worth reading? I get the feeling its full of nothing but retarded replies //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif only one of them decided to invade the country. Clinton didnt start a war that is lasting longer than ww2, that is costing us trillions of dollars and creating a new generation of fanatical anti-american jihadist. Bush was the one claiming, or at least eluding, that saddam was somehow responsible for 9/11; bush constantly to this day tries to tie his 'war on terror' with his Iraq mess.

You're right. Clinton dropped a few bombs that accomplished nothing and left. Did almost as bad in Iraq as he did in Somalia. Wait so capturing and killing extreme terrorists in Iraq creates more terrorist? I always thought allowing them to multiply did this. Didn't you hear? When we went into Iraq the terrorists hopped the boarders and came to us in Iraq. Sure I'll agree that Bush had no idea the terrorist would come to us in Iraq but they did. The people that are doing ******* bombings in Iraq are the people we want to go after so really call it what you want but they are there. Call them heroic ******* bombers, angels I don't care but the fact is those are the people we are trying to get rid of.

And some will say we're failing in afghanistan because the terrorists are moving back in but we're hot on their tails. The key is perseverence. This is going to be a constant battle for quite some time until the countries can remain stable on their own. You can't allow these extremists a free ground to conduct training and plans for bombing the US more. Realize that as an American and working in America you are the enemy. You are helping send products and goods to the middle east that the extremist don't want their people to have (even though they probably are using these products themselves). Like I said we have three options. Stop trade to those countries and only give the tyrant leaders what they will allow their people to have or sell and accept the violent acts against america or sell and fight off the extremists.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

You're right. Clinton dropped a few bombs that accomplished nothing and left. Did almost as bad in Iraq as he did in Somalia. Wait so capturing and killing extreme terrorists in Iraq creates more terrorist? I always thought allowing them to multiply did this.

uh, i would say clinton, simply by not invading, didnt do a bad job; he did a good job in that respect. Also it's the occupation of their land and death of

hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians that is breeding new 'terrorist'.. if you want to call them that. I have a hard time calling people defending their country from invading forces who are trying to force foreign political systems upon them terrorist.

Didn't you hear? When we went into Iraq the terrorists hopped the boarders and came to us in Iraq. Sure I'll agree that Bush had no idea the terrorist would come to us in Iraq but they did. The people that are doing ******* bombings in Iraq are the people we want to go after so really call it what you want but they are there. Call them heroic ******* bombers, angels I don't care but the fact is those are the people we are trying to get rid of.

Didnt you hear, the majority of violence in iraq is sectarian violence? do you know what civil war is? We are trying to get rid of iraqis who are killing iraqis?

And some will say we're failing in afghanistan because the terrorists are moving back in but we're hot on their tails.

yeah //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif mission accomplished right?

The key is perseverence. This is going to be a constant battle for quite some time until the countries can remain stable on their own. You can't allow these extremists a free ground to conduct training and plans for bombing the US more. Realize that as an American and working in America you are the enemy. You are helping send products and goods to the middle east that the extremist don't want their people to have (even though they probably are using these products themselves). Like I said we have three options. Stop trade to those countries and only give the tyrant leaders what they will allow their people to have or sell and accept the violent acts against america or sell and fight off the extremists.

That is the exact is the exact kind of paranoid over reactionary rhetoric that is costing us any sort of international respect we might have had.

A strong argument can also be made that we are less safe having a strong Shiite coalition comprised of iran, iraq and syria. At least saddam was a break in that block, keeping both countries in check.

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

Wait so capturing and killing extreme terrorists in Iraq creates more terrorist? I always thought allowing them to multiply did this. Didn't you hear? When we went into Iraq the terrorists hopped the boarders and came to us in Iraq.

I dont think anyone is saying that terrorists shouldn't be captured and brought to justice, it's just the means in which it's carried out. 50,000+ civillian casualties (underestimated) really sets a peaceful example. With as many ties the United States has to the Laden family, the Saudis, and almost every other nation in that region I find it hard to believe we're even looking for key terrorist figures.

Sure I'll agree that Bush had no idea the terrorist would come to us in Iraq but they did. The people that are doing ******* bombings in Iraq are the people we want to go after so really call it what you want but they are there. Call them heroic ******* bombers, angels I don't care but the fact is those are the people we are trying to get rid of.

Sure they knew it would happen. Bush Sr. wrote about it. Also, you only have to look at the migration of the mujahadeen in and into Afghanistan and every other 'ethnic' conflict since then to know fighters will be pouring in from all over the Muslim world in support of their cause. It happened / is happening in Bosnia, Lebanon, Palestine, yadda, yadda.

And some will say we're failing in afghanistan because the terrorists are moving back in but we're hot on their tails. The key is perseverence. This is going to be a constant battle for quite some time until the countries can remain stable on their own.

Were failing Afghanistan because we haven't done anything but destroy it and allow it to be de-centralized. I was in the beginning and still am in support of a war in Afghanistan...

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

I agree with it.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

all of it? or just part of it?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

and what it is it?

 

[cpierce 5,000+ posts]

Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

personally, i think America's biggest threat is the ambition of our own government. i think america's leaders secretly want to rule the world and f course, there are many independant countries who want nothing to do with being under our control. Second biggest threat is OBVIOUSLY midgets.

America's biggest threat is terror. We are currently waging WW3, widely known as "The war on terror" This is the single biggest threat that faces America. People that don't realize this are fooling themselves.

 

[nVRuckus 5,000+ posts]

ourselves. We are our own biggest threat. We make everyone hate us.