why that was nice

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

Secular progressive liberalism, goverment control, and political correctness = Situations like this.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Secular progressive liberalism, goverment control, and political correctness = Situations like this.

please explain what secular progressive liberalism has to do with this.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

please explain what secular progressive liberalism has to do with this.

Nothing.

But it sounds smart.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

that's what i was thinking.

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

please explain what secular progressive liberalism has to do with this.

It's been my experience that they generally support politically correct policy, and actively support the goverment controlled teachers unions that establish such policies. Their support is used as a stepping stone to promote their main agenda of removing Christmas and Halloween celebrations from public schools. So the children are forced to say winter festival and harvest party. Oddly, the secular progressives want Jewish and Pagan holidays to be taught and celebrated in school. They also want the word "God" taken off money.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

It's been my experience that they generally support politically correct policy, and actively support the goverment controlled teachers unions that establish such policies. Their support is used as a stepping stone to promote their main agenda of removing Christmas and Halloween celebrations from public schools. So the children are forced to say winter festival and harvest party. Oddly, the secular progressives want Jewish and Pagan holidays to be taught and celebrated in school. They also want the word "God" taken off money.

oh... statements like that that really lends to your credibility.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Really though, you failed to explain what secular progressive ideology has to do with policies like these.

You basically just spouted off some rhetoric you heard on Fox news and didn't really say anything related to a secular progressive ideology.

sec·u·lar –adjective

1. of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal: secular interests.

2. not pertaining to or connected with religion (opposed to sacred): secular music.

3. (of education, a school, etc.) concerned with nonreligious subjects.

4. (of members of the clergy) not belonging to a religious order; not bound by monastic vows (opposed to regular).

5. occurring or celebrated once in an age or century: the secular games of Rome.

6. going on from age to age; continuing through long ages.

–noun 7. a layperson.

8. one of the secular clergy.

pro·gres·sive

1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.

2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.

3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.

4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.

5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.

6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.

Liberalism is a doctrine stressing the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill,[3], Montesquieu, Voltaire [4] and others. As such, it is seen as the fusion of economic liberalism with political liberalism.[5] The "normative core" of classical liberalism is the idea that laissez-faire economics will bring about a spontaneous order or invisible hand that benefits the society,[6] though it does not necessarily oppose the state's provision of a few basic public goods that the market is seen as being incapable of providing.

What does all this have to do with Christmas, Halloween, or drawing guns?

Just because you heard Hannity and bill o'reilly say it a bunch of times, doesn't mean its applicable to every situation you disagree with.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

'secular progressive agenda' is really just a fine example of political rhetoric used to invoke an instant adversarial reaction in the base.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

it's a loaded phrase intentionally designed to polarize a debate and illicit a visceral and calculated response in the lowest of elements.

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

Simply stating they are part of the problem where in the mandates they pursue are similar to the policy in question, in which their base "fans the flames" in a sense, allowing such politically correct policies such as their own to become widely accepted and expected by a larger group of people, thus placating and adding to the real possibility of similar "bad" policy continuing to be established.

"Political correctness (PC or politically correct) is a term used to describe language, ideas, policies, or behaviors seen as seeking to minimize offence to groups of people."

Am I the only one that sees the correlation?

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

The article states this that this violated the school district's policy. i would imagine that there is some elected element to the school district.

That would indicate that this policy was at least, in part, the result of some form of direct or indirect democratic process, and not the result of a fatwah handed down from the teacher's union.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Simply stating they are part of the problem where in the mandates they pursue are similar to the policy in question, in which their base "fans the flames" in a sense, allowing such politically correct policies such as their own to become widely accepted and expected by a larger group of people, thus placating and adding to the real possibility of similar "bad" policy continuing to be established.

Please point me to these mandates demanding to suspend anyone who draws a squirt gun.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

i scanned secularprogressiveliberals.com but didn't see those mandates.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Simply stating they are part of the problem where in the mandates they pursue are similar to the policy in question, in which their base "fans the flames" in a sense, allowing such politically correct policies such as their own to become widely accepted and expected by a larger group of people, thus placating and adding to the real possibility of similar "bad" policy continuing to be established.

That's a beautifully composed sentence by the way.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

i wonder where flip went?