why that was nice

[cotjones 10+ year member]

You guys know what they do with the cars?

Their engines are drained of oil, filled with sodium silicate, and ran wide open til they die. Then, they're crushed.

This is what I see happening

1) Used car prices getting out of hand due to the shortage of them (cause they're crushed now)

2) Prices of used parts getting out of hand due to shortage, again.

3) People getting even further into debt because they bought a car they can't afford.

Good job, Democrats.

I don't see this so negatively.

Remember, the incentive is offered to better gas mileage cars. Better gas mileage alone can save drivers thousands a year in fuel costs. not to mention spur the popularity and ease of obtaining more fuel efficient cars. It's not only good for the environment, but for the economy, and the infrastructure of the US. Why buy a used car when you can get 4500 off of the sticker on a new more fuel efficient car which will save you money in the long run. Not to mention i don't see a shortage of used cars to even be plausible. You forget that these new subsidized cars will also eventually be used and resold. All this will do is make the inventory of used cars better cars.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

It's a terrible idea for a stimulus, because like you said, it's tied up in banks. People are spending money they don't have....

"Better for the environment"? Puh-lease. The only things that are bad are leaks. New cars ****. They cost an assload to produce, and an assload to fix. Also, about "more fuel efficient" cars... if you can't afford fuel, don't drive. I love my Honda. It's 15 years old, runs a 14.3 in the 1/4 mile (lol, not bad for a 4 door daily driver), and gets 28mpg mixed city/interstate. I loved my Nissan. Only got like 24 mpg though.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

It's a terrible idea for a stimulus, because like you said, it's tied up in banks. People are spending money they don't have....

"Better for the environment"? Puh-lease. The only things that are bad are leaks. New cars ****. They cost an assload to produce, and an assload to fix.

Well i'm not sure how the rebates are given but the people pocketing that money would be a huge stimulus to the economy. If it were me i'd open a free bank account for it and pay the monthly payment on the car with it for awhile. If it was 4500 bucks that would keep a car payment off my back for like 2 years. or the rent for 5 months //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Nope. The rebate is given off the price of the car. You don't get the cash. You still make payments. You can't haggle the dealer. You pay more for the car than you really have to.

Good job.

Also, I don't want to foot the bill for other people to get "more fuel efficient vehicles"

I could give a shit less what other people drive.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Also, I don't want to foot the bill for other people to get "more fuel efficient vehicles"

I could give a shit less what other people drive.

You should care, what other people drive will affect your environment, price at the pump, and literally every aspect of the economy.

I don't know about you but i want my kids and grand kids to live in a better world than it is, not worse.

I guess you are another one of these people who think "it's not going to affect me so why give a shit?"

Such an amazing attitude, no wonder the earth is so rosy.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

You should care, what other people drive will affect your environment, price at the pump, and literally every aspect of the economy.
I don't know about you but i want my kids and grand kids to live in a better world than it is, not worse.

I guess you are another one of these people who think "it's not going to affect me so why give a shit?"

Such an amazing attitude, no wonder the earth is so rosy.

we shouldnt idolize old cars. Every car over 5 years old should be destroyed and a voucher given for a hybrid.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

we shouldnt idolize old cars. Every car over 5 years old should be destroyed and a voucher given for a hybrid.

That might be a little extreme. But incentives do have to be made. One thing is certain, the world can not continue the way it is forever or even for long. Catastrophe is plainly inevitable.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

but seriously these are pretty bad ***. Too bad they stopped making them. I think i should buy a used one.

 

[andrew2944r 10+ year member]

Let's give government the OK to run 1/6 of the American economy (health care) while we are at it. OMG. Are Americans THIS stupid????

Yes, We are this stupid we elected Obama how much dumber can we be.

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

Obama can throat me!

 

[TimtheAxe 10+ year member]

Throat you?

that's disgusting.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

You should care, what other people drive will affect your environment, price at the pump, and literally every aspect of the economy.
I don't know about you but i want my kids and grand kids to live in a better world than it is, not worse.

I guess you are another one of these people who think "it's not going to affect me so why give a shit?"

Such an amazing attitude, no wonder the earth is so rosy.

Oh yeah? Well how does it feel to know that my car runs on ZERO emissions control devices? I have no O2 sensor (ECU tune took care of that), no EGR, no catalytic converter... Mmmmm I love the smell of raw exhaust.

Don't feed into the "global warming" bullshit. Human industry has less of an effect on the Earth's climate than nature does. For instance, volcanic eruptions and cow farts (largest contributor to methane gas).

we shouldnt idolize old cars. Every car over 5 years old should be destroyed and a voucher given for a hybrid.

Hybrids ****. They cost more per mile to produce and operate than a fucking Hummer.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/03/energy-cosp-per-mile-prius-vs-hummer-h3.html

Yes, We are this stupid we elected Obama how much dumber can we be.

Indeed.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

but seriously these are pretty bad ***. Too bad they stopped making them. I think i should buy a used one.

If they were made in a manual, it'd be my next vehicle.

Run them off of WVO, and you're more environmentally friendly than the self-righteous prick in the Insight next to you.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

If they were made in a manual, it'd be my next vehicle.
Run them off of WVO, and you're more environmentally friendly than the self-righteous prick in the Insight next to you.

Agreed. On top of that, you have shitloads more room to put stuff and can still tow shit. LOL.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Don't feed into the "global warming" bullshit. Human industry has less of an effect on the Earth's climate than nature does. For instance, volcanic eruptions and cow farts (largest contributor to methane gas).

you really cant count cow methane as natural.. since they are domesticated and we purposely breed millions of them... idiot.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif agriculture IS a human industry //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif