why that was nice

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

If you ride a big wheel like me, you don't have to worry about rubber tires or tubes. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

W3rd to the big wheel v. Green Machine.

True. I try to avoid doing power slides on my commute big wheel though.

But tis so fun!

I see.

I was an avid fan of the power slide even after I flipped it.

Happens.

I was young. I didn't believe in physics yet.

I still think Physics is a myth.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Perhaps...as for taxi/bus....it's a 5 mile walk and they don't come out here...working at a secluded military base ftl.

Perhaps you this would encourage you to move out of your parents house and find a place to live clser to where you work.

If you intend to do it through taxation, couldn't people just get around it? I can buy 40,000 gallons of gasoline on the futures market at ~$2/gallon. Are you going to prevent people from buying gasoline? At $12/gal, it would make sense to buy a storage faciltity. Because of people setting up these cooperatives, we would essentially have a gasoline hoarding problem.

Couldn't we just tax gas as it is dispensed? I mean instead of paying the tax at the time you bought it on the futures market, just have the tax collected at the point it passes through a vehicle filling nozzle. Seems like that might destroy any incentive to develop coops...

Secondly, there is little guarentee than a $10 increase in the price of gas would actually translate into anything. For instance, in TN we passed a lottery amendment for it to go to scholarships. Slowly, but surely it is going to other things. Pre-K, afterschool programs, etc. The are using the lottery scholarship to supplement the general fund, then diverting general fund dollars that used to go to those programs into other pork projects.

I dont care where the tax goes.. i just want to provide incentive to develop new technology and get rid of our crippling dependence on oil.

Lastly, I think our dependance on foriegn oil is key to Middle Eastern stabalization. Not to say it is by any means stable now, but I think if we cut them off completely, and sent them to the dark ages again, I think it would be much worse as faras terroris, etc. is concerned.

I think that if they we didn't care about oil we wouldn't care what happens over there. Sure it might be a shit hole, but so is africa... and they haven't been bothering us much. Besides.. like you said... it's far from stable over there as it is..

 

[revrider1 5,000+ posts]

Meh, im currently spedning 1/5 of my check a month on gas...

 

[SethPhillips 5,000+ posts]

i live like a half mile from work.... im buying a bike....

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I've only put about 3500 miles on my truck in 8 months. Working from home is where its at!

Unfortunately where I go camping is about 4 hours away so since summer is rolling around the miles will start racking up //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

i live like a half mile from work.... im buying a bike....

why don't you just walk!?!

half a mile? that takes like 10 minutes!

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

i live like a half mile from work.... im buying a bike....

****. I would walk that. I wish I was so lucky. There is no reason for you not to be riding a bike or walking.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

Perhaps you this would encourage you to move out of your parents house and find a place to live clser to where you work.


Couldn't we just tax gas as it is dispensed? I mean instead of paying the tax at the time you bought it on the futures market, just have the tax collected at the point it passes through a vehicle filling nozzle. Seems like that might destroy any incentive to develop coops...

I dont care where the tax goes.. i just want to provide incentive to develop new technology and get rid of our crippling dependence on oil.

I think that if they we didn't care about oil we wouldn't care what happens over there. Sure it might be a shit hole, but so is africa... and they haven't been bothering us much. Besides.. like you said... it's far from stable over there as it is..

although i agree with you about pushing for development of new technology, gas prices that high would cripple some people IMO. i mean, these technologies dont develope over night, and by the time they are ready people arent gonna care because they dont have any money to afford a new technology that inheritently will be expensive as shit.

sure you can say, "well, no one is forcing you to work that job", but then what? lets say fine, youre right i quit that job that i had for $25/hr and am now looking for jobs locally to me. what am i gonna find in a suburb? mcdonalds? rite aid? home depot? minimum wage jobs (or close to it)?

i dont know. i kinda wish there was a way to regulate these things so they didnt get out of control. honestly if the price of gas stayed where its at right now, id be "ok" with that. its what in the future thats scaring me. im between a rock and a hard place honestly. i mean, its not really fair to regulate this stuff now is it? then again, it is almost extorting people for something that is a necessity in this day.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

billa like gasoline

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

There are what, 500,000 jobs in the Mira Mesa area? You shouldn't have that much trouble finding work.

actually im in a contract that i agreed to. free training if i complete the program, and then finish my contract by working anywhere from 1-3 years for this company. and the places of work for this company are few and far between. and the ones that actually are willing to hire us (if they do, they pay for my training) are even less.

if i do not, i have to pay back the program as well as loose my credits that ive earned that basically put me 3-4 years ahead of someone coming in without the program certification.

btw, i dont live anywhere near mira mesa lol. that would require driving.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Perhaps you this would encourage you to move out of your parents house and find a place to live clser to where you work...

True. Current gas prices are increasing that incentive. But the lack of housing within 20 miles of the homes provide a disincentive. This would drive up the cost of homes located closer to major businesses and factories.

Couldn't we just tax gas as it is dispensed? I mean instead of paying the tax at the time you bought it on the futures market, just have the tax collected at the point it passes through a vehicle filling nozzle. Seems like that might destroy any incentive to develop coops...

How? If I felt that $10/gal were to be sustained, I'd buy a 50,000 gallon drum and store it offsite somewhere. Unless they are going to put a contraption on my gas tank...then I would fill through an alternative place. If the price increase is due to excessive taxation, people will find alternatives.

I dont care where the tax goes.. i just want to provide incentive to develop new technology and get rid of our crippling dependence on oil.

Raising the tax without decreasing regulation on alternative energies would do no good. It wouldn't do any good to build a ketchup powered car if you couldn't drive one on the highway due to safety reasons.

I think that if they we didn't care about oil we wouldn't care what happens over there. Sure it might be a shit hole, but so is africa... and they haven't been bothering us much. Besides.. like you said... it's far from stable over there as it is..

The africa anaolgy is a good one.

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

actually im in a contract that i agreed to. free training if i complete the program, and then finish my contract by working anywhere from 1-3 years for this company. and the places of work for this company are few and far between. and the ones that actually are willing to hire us (if they do, they pay for my training) are even less.
if i do not, i have to pay back the program and well as loose my credits that ive earned that basically put me 3-4 years ahead of someone coming in without the program certification.

btw, i dont live anywhere near mira mesa lol. that would require driving.

move closer to work?

 

[billabongcr 5,000+ posts]

How? If I felt that $10/gal were to be sustained, I'd buy a 50,000 gallon drum and store it offsite somewhere. Unless they are going to put a contraption on my gas tank...then I would fill through an alternative place. If the price increase is due to excessive taxation, people will find alternatives.

to my knowledge gas starts to go bad after 30 days?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

move closer to work?

Everyone cannot move closer to work. There is limited amount of housing....and it takes considerable amount of time to build multiply occupancy units like highrise condos. It isn't like they can throw up 100 of those next to IBM overnight. Furthermore, many small towns have restrictive covenants against the building of highrise condos. In parts of my town, it is illegal to have a building over 3 stories.