WHIS HAS MORE SPL ? 1 15" Cerwin Vega Stroker , Or 2 12" Alpine Type R's? MORE BASS??

[brandontw 10+ year member]

get the type r's- they will "wang" fine for you and sound good doing it. i dont like strokers--- they sound icky:crap:

 

[Spkrman]

me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

and the truth comes out!

I have no incentive to say alpine is great, but you sure have incentive to say CV is great... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[Spkrman]

I personally believe it is not so much of the type r's performance as to the extent of speakerman's testing which has resulted in such high marks for the type r. Think of it as the chevy 350 for an anology. They were inexpensive (compared to CV) and plentiful that much exhaustive trials, testing has been done to fully exploit much of the potential of the type r. Of course there are much more powerful engines out there, but few like the 350 in terms of aftermarket following.
I don't know if they will take any world records home with them. I also find this world record deal very iffy in that nearly every manufacturer tends to have some type of world record because there are so many competitions. Furthermore, the ease in which a sub can produce SPL is very important for a strong following. Thanks to speakermans' work, it seem much easier to achieve decent SPL (with some SQ) than those wishing to follow the CV route. Just because of the availabilty of knowledge of this forum. Not to say this is the only source that knowledge is available.

RFCV, perhaps you have equal experience in testing with the various CV platforms. You cite many records, but in the world of business, there is a saying "What have you done for me lately?" It looks as though Alpine is doing much and CV very little, although the pro-stroker is very new. We shall have to wait to see if a similar following develops.

I ,personally, am not a big alpine fan (except componets) mostly because i haven't heard any of these setups.

I have repeatedly tested the R against what you would assume to be more capable woofers (more than you guys know of!!! haha //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif )... My install DOES make a big difference, but the equipment in it works extremely well in this application.

The type R's are just killer daily drivers... and I've found a way to make them nasty loud in my blazer, at a nasty low note //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif. Which btw, the type R has an extremely powerful motor... totally unrelated to the above post //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

It is possible that another woofer exists that is more effeciant, while handling the power of the type R... and hopefully i'll find it before finals, and hopefully it won't cost much more.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

and the truth comes out!
I have no incentive to say alpine is great, but you sure have incentive to say CV is great... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

WHAT?

First of all...I never said alpine was junk. Just the uneducated posts about them. You are NOT one of the ones I am talking about.

Second of all...I have a pair of CV V-max //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Not strokers, I didnt like the old strokers. Havent played with the new ones. I am into SQ not SPL. I now use a 12" SI Mag.

No truth comes out, I wont deny that I like the v-max CVs or the stealth or come of their other offerings. I also wont deny that you put up numbers with decently cheap subs, and that the experience that I have with the Rs is positive. There is no "truth comes out" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Polecat 5,000+ posts]

post like these are why the internet is going down hill......................

everyone has their favorite brands and yet everyone tries to shove their favorite down everyone else's throat,geeze, get over it already. Just because someone does/doesn't like the CV/Alpine...big deal! If either of those work best for you....awesome, but get over the fist waving.....geeze, lifes too short.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

quit being logical tracey!!!! it gets u in trouble lolol

 

[Polecat 5,000+ posts]

quit being logical tracey!!!! it gets u in trouble lolol

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not logical actually, just don't understand forums, they have changed over the years from actually helping eachother for the grand sport of sharing the same hobbies, to slamming eachother for not liking my favorite ice cream.........

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

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not logical actually, just don't understand forums, they have changed over the years from actually helping eachother for the grand sport of sharing the same hobbies, to slamming eachother for not liking my favorite ice cream.........

Wait... You don't like mint chocolate chip? You're a ****** mother ****er you ****ing **** *** **** shit *** ****er!!!!

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[Polecat 5,000+ posts]

Wait... You don't like mint chocolate chip? You're a ****** mother ****er you ****ing **** *** **** shit *** ****er!!!!

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ok...ok....ok.....ok....I like mint chocolate chip now.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

ok...ok....ok.....ok....I like mint chocolate chip now.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I thought you'd see it my way...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Polecat 5,000+ posts]

I thought you'd see it my way...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

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[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

This whole thread makes me laugh. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

And I make baby jesus cry //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[dbhittin 5,000+ posts]

bumpity bump, my type r's thump, and mag's just straight take a dump

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

bumpity bump, my type r's thump, and mag's just straight take a dump

HAHA!!!

You just made me laugh loud enough my boss came out of his office!!!

Thats going in my sig!

 

[RFCV 10+ year member]

more CV than alpine entusiasts... i beg to differ...



I was referring to the Termpro forum, which was in question. I checked in the 'subs' over there and I can count on my one hand the number of Alpine sub posts since the beginning of this year! Yes, there are more Alpine enthusiasts than CV in the general public, mainly because Alpine is VERY well known more for their excellent receivers than subs. That might be changing for them now. We will have to see. As far as subs, CV is very much more well known than Alpine, especially by competitors!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

alpine has been making quality stuff for *many* years, and CV has *never* been as big as alpine.

Cerwin Vega began in 1954, mainly in home loudspeakers.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif