whats wrong with this enclosure???

[snfsh79077 10+ year member]

I would have been happy with a refund of the 20 bucks i payed him. i emailed him several times at first he said he would refund then he blew me off. After an angry email to him he said he wont refund, the box is fine. he made a design the same as mine with 2 t1510s in the same truck for another member. the guy has the box up for sale about 2 weeks later! hmmm wonder why
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6300571#post6300571

So the guy is selling the box because he is changing to 12s...whats your point? I didn't see anywhere that said there was a problem with output. Maybe the guy wants a lot of low end...well thats not easily done in a single cab. Also the other boxes for sale are mob boxes and boxking was very happy with them. I was under the impression you were a dick to mob about it which is why he declined your refund. Especially since you tried to slander his name. There are different approaches you have gone with this.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Pimp, you ought to put that in your sig banner, which reminds me of something else. I have seen countless members here with, "PM me I build boxes!!" in their sig and they really just need to take it out. I am no design/build guru, but just from my impression of some of these individuals, they really don't know what they're doing. I'm on my second box build, learned from the first, and I still have a whole lot more learning to do. But some of this shit is funny.

 

[burzendowski 10+ year member]

no the funny part is what he says in this thread after building the box. rite after the pics of the box he says......box turned out very well, and fits nicely, but we are not happy with the output of the 1510 t's, they are the new shorter mounting depth. We are running them off a vfl 100.1 and gain set accordingly, no clipping, but the subs just cant take it, and the output is not there...guess we were expectin more from all the hype. My 2 12" w3 off 400 watts in my trailblazer were louder

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=400019

2 dd tens 1200-1500 watts in such a small cab!! how could you not have output?

the problem is the enclosure//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

So the guy is selling the box because he is changing to 12s...whats your point? I didn't see anywhere that said there was a problem with output. Maybe the guy wants a lot of low end...well thats not easily done in a single cab. Also the other boxes for sale are mob boxes and boxking was very happy with them. I was under the impression you were a dick to mob about it which is why he declined your refund. Especially since you tried to slander his name. There are different approaches you have gone with this.

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

If those PWK boxes could get my truck louder than I can, then I would be amazed. For some reason, I doubt they can.

 

[burzendowski 10+ year member]

what does your truck meter at? im not saying he can but i do know he does design some very nice sounding loud street enclosures.

 

[snfsh79077 10+ year member]

Pimp, you ought to put that in your sig banner, which reminds me of something else. I have seen countless members here with, "PM me I build boxes!!" in their sig and they really just need to take it out. I am no design/build guru, but just from my impression of some of these individuals, they really don't know what they're doing. I'm on my second box build, learned from the first, and I still have a whole lot more learning to do. But some of this shit is funny.

maybe you don't know what you doing but I know I do..

no the funny part is what he says in this thread after building the box. rite after the pics of the box he says......box turned out very well, and fits nicely, but we are not happy with the output of the 1510 t's, they are the new shorter mounting depth. We are running them off a vfl 100.1 and gain set accordingly, no clipping, but the subs just cant take it, and the output is not there...guess we were expectin more from all the hype. My 2 12" w3 off 400 watts in my trailblazer were louder
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=400019

2 dd tens 1200-1500 watts in such a small cab!! how could you not have output?

the problem is the enclosure//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Just because you have two 10s and that much power doesn't guarantee its going to be loud...maybe the 1510s are very picky subs and only like certain enclosures. When you take another sub and put it in that box and give me actual tests I wont rule out the design. Could it be just as simple as porting to the passenger instead of driver side? maybe but all the passenger port boxes have proved themselves.

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

Pimp, you ought to put that in your sig banner, which reminds me of something else. I have seen countless members here with, "PM me I build boxes!!" in their sig and they really just need to take it out. I am no design/build guru, but just from my impression of some of these individuals, they really don't know what they're doing. I'm on my second box build, learned from the first, and I still have a whole lot more learning to do. But some of this shit is funny.

I plan on it.

not trying to diss the competition but some of you motherfuckers dont have a clue what you are doing.

 

For clarity, i am not talking about Mobeous

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

and just to prove it, I'll be doing a build soon with a pair of tens, and my goal is to burp in the 48's.

why not the 50's? because its a fairlt small trunk, and still a family car......meaning that there still needs to be room for a stroller/playpen/groceries/etc.

and 2 big amps and batteries and ETC....

 

[burzendowski 10+ year member]

exactly just because you have the equipment doesnt mean itll be loud you need a proper enclosure which i believe we do not have.

so what if i flip the box upside down and spin it so the sub is on the drivers side and the port is out the passenger for testing purposes . will that show its the enclosure? i may be able to get my hands on a entry level crossfire 10 to test it will fit the mounting depth of this enclosure. if it doent perform then is it the enclosure or will you say maybe its that sub too? no matter what sub is in this enclosure it should perform better than it is to a certain degree.

i have the sub in a .5 sealed enclosure temp box. it gets louder than mobs enclosure. mobs enclosure has no acoustic suspension the woofer unloads as it begins to produce bass. can you explain that?

maybe you don't know what you doing but I know I do..


Just because you have two 10s and that much power doesn't guarantee its going to be loud...maybe the 1510s are very picky subs and only like certain enclosures. When you take another sub and put it in that box and give me actual tests I wont rule out the design. Could it be just as simple as porting to the passenger instead of driver side? maybe but all the passenger port boxes have proved themselves.

 

[da box king 10+ year member]

I don't think I'm gettin into this box convo, as I have not played with it enough.

as far as PWK designs...no way in hell will I pay for his services...I have heard just as many bad things about his designs as good

 

[406er 10+ year member]

i think the new box will be a winner. and for those that say the port is on the top and it should still sound the same sure dont know too much about enclosure design! the old box was a sealed box with a huge leak, this one employs the port properly. i think mobious should pay out the $20 if this one is a winner

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

what does your truck meter at? im not saying he can but i do know he does design some very nice sounding loud street enclosures.

My new truck isn't done, but my old truck:

Mach 5 SPL 12 and 2 Sundown 3000's = 149+ @ headrest

Type R 15 = 151 @ headrest and 152+ kick panel

I think I'll get the new one louder.

 

[Volenti 10+ year member]

air is like water in the fact that it takes the path of least resistance when it is being forced somewhere.

that area above the port will not be pressurized anywhere near as much as the air behind the sub/to the left of the sub.

Its not completely isolated, but partially so. the air goes around that "Area" above the port, straight to the port itself.

the air above the port is not being utilized to its full potential.....so now you have a condition where the port is too large for the air that is being utilized properly, and on top of that, it fires right into the sub which is no good anyway.

Hopefully that explains it just a little.....just remember that just about everything in enclosure design and tuning is mainly based on theory from ideas that people had many years ago.

You're confusing flow with pressure, just because the area above the port has a low flow, doesn't mean it isn't being pressurized.

Nature abhors a vacuum, areas of high pressure will flow to areas of low pressure given the chance, it is physically impossible, as in breaking the laws of physics, for the "dead space" above the port to be at a different pressure from the rest of the enclosure for more than 3 or 4 miliseconds (speed of sound 1130f/s).

In that time frame, only frequencies above 80 hz have a short enough wavelength to be effected, and even then, it's far more complicated than simply being dead space.

 

[snfsh79077 10+ year member]

exactly just because you have the equipment doesnt mean itll be loud you need a proper enclosure which i believe we do not have.
so what if i flip the box upside down and spin it so the sub is on the drivers side and the port is out the passenger for testing purposes . will that show its the enclosure? i may be able to get my hands on a entry level crossfire 10 to test it will fit the mounting depth of this enclosure. if it doent perform then is it the enclosure or will you say maybe its that sub too? no matter what sub is in this enclosure it should perform better than it is to a certain degree.

i have the sub in a .5 sealed enclosure temp box. it gets louder than mobs enclosure. mobs enclosure has no acoustic suspension the woofer unloads as it begins to produce bass. can you explain that?

No I wouldn't blame it on that sub too, that would be the whole reason I suggested testing with another woofer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

I'm finished entertaining you so enjoy your new design.

I don't think I'm gettin into this box convo, as I have not played with it enough.
as far as PWK designs...no way in hell will I pay for his services...I have heard just as many bad things about his designs as good

thank you

 

[burzendowski 10+ year member]

im not trying to be an *** about it . seriously if another subwoofer performs shitty in mobs enclosure than would you say its the enclosure?

No I wouldn't blame it on that sub too, that would be the whole reason I suggested testing with another woofer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
I'm finished entertaining you so enjoy your new design.

thank you