Whats Fair?

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

He DID do his wiring correctly, the fault was in the subwoofer itself, not the way the OP wired it up.

I ALWAYS test my wiring before hooking anything up. All it takes is a $10 DMM from radio shack and 22 seconds to read the impedence, or even a 9v battery for tha tmatter. If he would have done that, which should have been done, everything could have been settled differently.

Personally, i think the seller should refund the purchase, but the buyer pay shipping. Either that, or leave it as it is.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

chill out there nuthugger, i wasnt taking a side, rather simply stating that he should have checked his shit properly.
The seller would be admirable if he did refund the purchase due to his negligence, but at the same time i have some understanding for someone who is too lazy/ignorant/whatever to check and make sure he is doing his wiring correctly.

It was already found that the product was not as described from get go. What are the expectations of the buyer when receiving the product. Is he expected to go out and purchase a DMM to ensure coils are good? Is he expected to go out and buy a test bench to ensure the product is fully functional? Your argument is about as fucked up as your gloating about selling POS computer parts in the misc.

 

[KyleBechtold 5,000+ posts]

I'd tell him that he should give you a refund for shipping as well or I'd do a paypal claim for defective merchandise.

ya paypal claim that it was not as described.

x2

haha you guys are funny.. paypal will fuck you in the butt and make you **** their dicks afterwards.. and still won't help you out

 

[jco1385 5,000+ posts]

back to my original point, he should have popped the coils with a 9v batt before hook up.

so he should assume that it's messed up? i say it should be right, or otherwise noted by the seller. the last thing i'm thinking about when i get a sub is if some jackass wired the terminals backwards.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

back to my original point, he should have popped the coils with a 9v batt before hook up.

I ALWAYS test my wiring before hooking anything up. All it takes is a $10 DMM from radio shack and 22 seconds to read the impedence, or even a 9v battery for tha tmatter. If he would have done that, which should have been done, everything could have been settled differently.
Personally, i think the seller should refund the purchase, but the buyer pay shipping. Either that, or leave it as it is.

It is not the responsibility of the buyer to ensure the seller did not deliver a defected or altered product. I assume you are way behind on your knowledge of consumer protection laws. A reasonable person would assume that the product delivered is functional as described.

Should he noticed something was wrong as soon as it did not perform as expected, yes. A reasonable person would play the sub at low volumes initially to ensure proper performance. But all this testing and other garbage....doubtful.

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

It was already found that the product was not as described from get go. What are the expectations of the buyer when receiving the product. Is he expected to go out and purchase a DMM to ensure coils are good? Is he expected to go out and buy a test bench to ensure the product is fully functional? Your argument is about as ****ed up as your gloating about selling POS computer parts in the misc.

1) the seller hasnt spoken up yet

2) i find it common sense to always check wiring with a DMM or a 9v battery. To not do this in any situation is kind of stupid, even if you are an expert on wiring.

3) what POS computer parts thing are you talking about now? im confused

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

haha you guys are funny.. paypal will fuck you in the butt and make you **** their dicks afterwards.. and still won't help you out

If paypal doesn't help, American Express will.

 

[cx-7heaven 10+ year member]

so he should assume that it's messed up? i say it should be right, or otherwise noted by the seller. the last thing i'm thinking about when i get a sub is if some jackass wired the terminals backwards.

Actually, yes, he should look for anything wrong with a USED, reconed sub before hook up. I would understand if it took a vast array of test gear to check this, but it only takes a 9v battery, I learned a long time ago to do this. I checked a sub I sent to FI when it came back to me.. just because

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

It is not the responsibility of the buyer to ensure the seller did not deliver a defected or altered product. I assume you are way behind on your knowledge of consumer protection laws.

Once again, i am not taking a side here. I agree that the buyer shouldnt have to have the hassle of a defective part. However, if he would have tested his wiring beforehand, which i am sure you do, the item would have not been damaged, and the matters could have been settled in a better manner.

Man, yer e-penor is raging this evening.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

back to my original point, he should have popped the coils with a 9v batt before hook up.

I'm not an expert on all things caraudio so I don't what that would do...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

1) the seller hasnt spoken up yet

This. I have already commented on what a reasonable person would do.

 

[cx-7heaven 10+ year member]

I'm not an expert on all things caraudio so I don't what that would do...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

A 9v battery causes the sub to move one way or the other depending on polarity, since it is dc power, it only pushes out or pulls back and stays that way until you disconnect it.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Actually, yes, he should look for anything wrong with a USED, reconed sub before hook up. I would understand if it took a vast array of test gear to check this, but it only takes a 9v battery, I learned a long time ago to do this. I checked a sub I sent to FI when it came back to me.. just because

Once again, i am not taking a side here. I agree that the buyer shouldnt have to have the hassle of a defective part. However, if he would have tested his wiring beforehand, which i am sure you do, the item would have not been damaged, and the matters could have been settled in a better manner.
Man, yer e-penor is raging this evening.

I am thinking you are not very familiar with the legal arguments presented here. A reasonable person would have tested by hooking it up according to accepted wiring diagrams. Not testing to see if some redneck nigger rigged the shit.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You are confusing legal responsibility with common sense given a certain level of expertise.

Yes, I would have checked the coils with a DMM, but I wouldn't expect the average person to have the knowledge to know that. Yes, this implies I am calling OP a moron.

 

[cx-7heaven 10+ year member]

I am thinking you are not very familiar with the legal arguments presented here. A reasonable person would have tested by hooking it up according to accepted wiring diagrams. Not testing to see if some redneck nigger rigged the shit.

Again, checking polarity is a reasonable thing to check.