What electrical for around 4800 watts

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Yes, until you factor in Impedence rise on the crescendo, and the fact that you will need atleast a 250 amp alt and these batts to even try to stay close to 14. You wont be seeing close to 4200 out of the 3K. You might see 2500 to 3000 depending on where you imp. finally settles.

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[4OZGLOVES 10+ year member]

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You are right, but not everyone looks at watts after rise. Most people look at starting wattage that are not competing.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

You are right, but not everyone looks at watts after rise. Most people look at starting wattage that are not competing.

Its not about competitions. Its simple facts. He will never see that 4200. If thats what he was hoping for then he bought the wrong amp. Thats why i strongly suggest overhead when people ask what kind of amps they need. If someone wants 1200, then buy 2K-2500, you'll see your 1200. This is a simple and sad case of someone going by the numbers without being educated on what happens in an audio system.

 

[ahole-ic]

You are right, but not everyone looks at watts after rise. Most people look at starting wattage that are not competing.

EXACTLY!!! Because if you're not burping, you cannot count on impedence rise. Your rise will be way higher than nominal at some frequencies and WAY lower at some frequencies. To simply say the impedence will rise is a misnomer.... but worstenemy is known for thinking he knows but really doesn't have a clue.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

EXACTLY!!! Because if you're not burping, you cannot count on impedence rise. Your rise will be way higher than nominal at some frequencies and WAY lower at some frequencies. To simply say the impedence will rise is a misnomer.... but worstenemy is known for thinking he knows but really doesn't have a clue.

lulz at you thinking you know what you are talking about. In a ported box, your imp will drop closest to the wired imp at tuned frequency and below. If my box is tuned to 30, and my shit is wired to .5 ohm then itll be closest to that and 30hz, 29hz, 31hz and then rise when you start climbing or dropping.

Now, why dont you save your personal attacks for me for a PM or something and try to spew some knowledge and help some people instead of trying to act like a hot shot when your just another guy behind a keyboard.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

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It has nothing to do with what he's asking. He's not asking us to sit down and run the numbers on exactly how much current draw he's going to have from 4kw, he's asking what kind of electrical he'll need to support it. Regardless of how much power we're actually running, we all refer to our systems by what their nominal (max) power is. My amp is rated at 3kw, does it actually output 3kw all the time? Hell no, but when talking about what electrical I'll need I didn't sit down and try and figure out exactly what kind of power I'd see from it, I just upgraded the electrical to handle 3kw.

There's no need for you to be such a critical dick, he's just asking how many batt's he needs, no need to flame him.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

It has nothing to do with what he's asking. He's not asking us to sit down and run the numbers on exactly how much current draw he's going to have from 4kw, he's asking what kind of electrical he'll need to support it. Regardless of how much power we're actually running, we all refer to our systems by what their nominal (max) power is. My amp is rated at 3kw, does it actually output 3kw all the time? Hell no, but when talking about what electrical I'll need I didn't sit down and try and figure out exactly what kind of power I'd see from it, I just upgraded the electrical to handle 3kw.
There's no need for you to be such a critical dick, he's just asking how many batt's he needs, no need to flame him.

Im not being critical. If you have a system, you need to understand what happens in it.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Im not being critical. If you have a system, you need to understand what happens in it.

Well that's fine, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HE'S ASKING. He's asking what kind of electrical he will need to power his system which is rated at 4800w.

 

[ahole-ic]

lulz at you thinking you know what you are talking about. In a ported box, your imp will drop closest to the wired imp at tuned frequency and below. If my box is tuned to 30, and my shit is wired to .5 ohm then itll be closest to that and 30hz, 29hz, 31hz and then rise when you start climbing or dropping.
Now, why dont you save your personal attacks for me for a PM or something and try to spew some knowledge and help some people instead of trying to act like a hot shot when your just another guy behind a keyboard.

Oh I DO know what I'm talking about and you just proved that you didn't.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/amplifiers/383344-why-daily-systems-should-not-count-impedance-rise.html

You described yourself in your statement. I am merely clearing up your misinformation. You are an idiot and the quicker you realize that the better we will all be. At your tuning frequency, the sub has the most impedence rise it is going to have. It falls off everywhere else.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Oh I DO know what I'm talking about and you just proved that you didn't. http://www.caraudio.com/forum/amplifiers/383344-why-daily-systems-should-not-count-impedance-rise.html

You described yourself in your statement. I am merely clearing up your misinformation. You are an idiot and the quicker you realize that the better we will all be. At your tuning frequency, the sub has the most impedence rise it is going to have. It falls off everywhere else.

Ok. So i posted it backwards, that is my fault. Now. Tuning freq. in a daily system is dictated by musical preference. So you tune where your music will be playing the most. So in essence, you just proved more of what i was saying. If i listen to rap and i tune my ish to 32 because i listen to music with lows then that means ill be in the area where ill have the most rise most of the time. So ill have the least rise when i listen to rock, in a rap tuned system.

The sooner you get over your vendetta against me, the better off we will both be. Why are you all over my nuts.

 

[themgators511 10+ year member]

lulz

 

[ahole-ic]

Ok. So i posted it backwards, that is my fault. Now. Tuning freq. in a daily system is dictated by musical preference. So you tune where your music will be playing the most. So in essence, you just proved more of what i was saying. If i listen to rap and i tune my ish to 32 because i listen to music with lows then that means ill be in the area where ill have the most rise most of the time. So ill have the least rise when i listen to rock, in a rap tuned system.

I still don't think you understand. You tune BELOW the frequencies you're going to play for music. Rise isn't what we're battling here. If you tune for 30 hz, then at around 34-35hz, you're going to get a lot of gain just from the efficiency of your box and the waves being in phase. The impedence rise is HIGHEST at these frequencies though. As the frequency moves above the peak, the impedence gradually drops and here and there it might peak or valley but for the most part above tuning you're ok. Below tuning the waves are really out of phase, you lose efficiency and your impedence drops like a rock... usually well below nominal.(it is hardly this predictable when looking at a graph as in the areas I've explained above you will get variations.) Again, you demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Here you go. This sums it up pretty well. Loudspeaker Impedance

The sooner you get over your vendetta against me, the better off we will both be. Why are you all over my nuts.

My vendetta is against misinformation. You are a cocky little prick who thinks he knows everything and you don't. You're wrong almost every time you open your mouth. The sooner you stop talking down to people and acting like you know things when you clearly don't the sooner I will leave you alone.

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

My vendetta is against misinformation. You are a cocky little prick who thinks he knows everything and you don't. You're wrong almost every time you open your mouth. The sooner you stop talking down to people and acting like you know things when you clearly don't the sooner I will leave you alone.

That is a lie and we both know it. Im not cocky and i dont pretend to know everything, nor am i wrong that often. I havnt talked to down to anyone here. If what i understand is a misunderstanding, which in this case, it was by a little bit, then i would like to be corrected. Misguiding people is not my goal. But when someone is a dick about it then why should i listen to them, or in this case you, You are the cocky one here and you always have been. I will thank you for posting the information to straighten out my misunderstanding and say fuck you for the way you have to act to do it.

 

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

Yes, until you factor in Impedence rise on the crescendo, and the fact that you will need atleast a 250 amp alt and these batts to even try to stay close to 14. You wont be seeing close to 4200 out of the 3K. You might see 2500 to 3000 depending on where you imp. finally settles.

Music is dynamic also.....his impedance isn't gonna finally rest anywhere....and at many times the amp will be seeing .5ohm //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Music is dynamic also.....his impedance isn't gonna finally rest anywhere....and at many times the amp will be seeing .5ohm //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

your late to the party sweetheart.