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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Not this again.....

I know, its kinda sad how we cant have a political discussion without him coming in with his same old tired arguments and filling page after page with nonsense and double standards. At least he provides some lulz while he's doing it.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Let me introduce you to how a democracy works...

(And yes, it is a Democracy)

 

 

Democracy = Pick your tyrant / 51% of the people can vote away the rights and property of the other 49%

 

What we are SUPPOSED to be is a REPUBLIC.

 

In a REPUBLIC the individual is sovereign and the state has no more power than the individual who collectively hire PUBLIC SERVANTS and invest them with limited powers. In a republic the state has no power which is not given to it by the people and are bound by rule of law.

 

You may need to at least take civics 101 if not economics before you engage in these debates there, Trotsky.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

I know, its kinda sad how we cant have a political discussion without him coming in with his same old tired arguments and filling page after page with nonsense and double standards. At least he provides some lulz while he's doing it.

I'm not even laughing. If that level of ignorance and fanaticism is what a "higher education" is spooning out these days we're more fucked than I thought.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Regulate everything so it is impossible to do business then claim lower taxes does nothing. Wouldn't most of us like to make 10 grand more a year at our jobs? To bad we can't but your employer is paying that in regulations per employee....

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Also want to make an obvious point, when arguing with left wing nut jobs they will act like they are new and fresh and have a moral standard higher than your own. Simple fact is their moral standards are lower (look at end results of their social experiments) and then when they talk about the "old tax cuts" they use data from the early 1900's totally ignoring the fact that the REST OF THE WORLD CHANGED SINCE THEN. We are competing to get business here against other countries, was not that way back then at all and when other countries have no capital gains, less taxes over all, less regulations and cheaper labor where do you think they are going to go?

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Let me introduce you to how a democracy works...

(And yes, it is a Democracy)

No, we are NOT a Democracy dumbass. We are a Representative Republic. OMG, what a fucking moron. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

They do it for the post count bro.

I do it to show everyone what a moron Proxy is. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

It's easy.

Like shootin' fish in a barrel. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/boink.gif.91933e72f927f2cefc79aff02573090c.gif

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Increasing tax rates has NEVER worked as a sustainable form of "real" revenue...the only way the feds can increase revenue is to get more people working and paying taxes...THAT is the only way revenue increases for the feds. And if you believe increasing taxes on "millionaires" will pay for all your goodies you have been promised, you are a complete idiot.:

If increasing taxes doesn't increase revenue, then how do we have income tax revenue in the first place? I'm not sure if you know anything about the world, but the income tax isn't even 100 years old. So at one point, taxes were raised in that the income tax was created. And it brings in revenue today. So if increasing taxes doesn't create revenue, how do we have revenue from income taxes?

Also, let's just see if we can find a base to go from here, Mr. Ego22. If one month you're making $1,500 and spending $1,400 and the next month you're making $1,300 and spending $1,450, do you have an income problem or and expenditure problem? Thanks.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

I do it to show everyone what a moron Proxy is. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
It's easy.

Like shootin' fish in a barrel. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/boink.gif.91933e72f927f2cefc79aff02573090c.gif

Let's see if your fish-in-barrel shooting gun is working enough to answer my two above questions.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Democracy = Pick your tyrant / 51% of the people can vote away the rights and property of the other 49%

What rights are 51% of people trying to take away from the 49%? Let stop talking in bullshit figurative meanings and talk about what is really happening. What rights, specifically, are 51% of people trying to take away from 49%?

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

If increasing taxes doesn't increase revenue, then how do we have income tax revenue in the first place? I'm not sure if you know anything about the world, but the income tax isn't even 100 years old. So at one point, taxes were raised in that the income tax was created. And it brings in revenue today. So if increasing taxes doesn't create revenue, how do we have revenue from income taxes?
Also, let's just see if we can find a base to go from here, Mr. Ego22. If one month you're making $1,500 and spending $1,400 and the next month you're making $1,300 and spending $1,450, do you have an income problem or and expenditure problem? Thanks.

Your questions have already been answered in this thread dumbass...I'm certainly not going to waste my time repeating basic shit to a fucking moron who thinks our form of government is a Democracy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

We don't have a REVENUE problem....we a have a SPENDING problem. Yes, I repeated it again for the moonbat fuckfart.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Your questions have already been answered in this thread dumbass...I'm certainly not going to waste my time repeating basic shit to a fucking moron who thinks our form of government is a Democracy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

No, they fucking haven't. You're a pussy. You couldn't shoot a fish if it was stuffed into the barrel of your favorite gun.

And here, let ME repeat. We have a BIG R-E-V-E-N-U-E PROBLEM, WITH A (MUCH) SMALLER S-P-E-N-D-I-N-G PROBLEM. But I guess that's only if you agree with math and the fact that 2 > 1.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

And holic, I'll give you proof that waste isn't a significant portion of our budget when you prove to me that there isn't a giant invisible flying spaghetti monster in the sky.

Apart from that, if you want to have a real debate about ideology, tell me where I'm wrong:

My philosophy is based on the fact that the real job creators aren't [just] the rich. Everyone is a job creator. If you've ever spent on dollar on bubble gum in a gas station, you've just helped create multiple jobs. There is not a single hole in that theory and everything is built from that, and that is a completely original idea from me by the way. Never said before. Peace prize, please.
And expanding on that diamond-solid foundation, if you want more jobs created, you need to help everyone, not just the rich, help create jobs. That means spending more money, and that means having more money to spend. That's pillar #2. Pillar #3 is the fact that the rich are rich and they buy everything the need, want and them some. If you give them more money (ie, tax cuts) it just goes into a savings account doing nothing for the economy.

So how does this culminate into something relevant? The never-ending republican solution to everything - tax cuts for the rich - won't help a **** thing. Even tax cuts for the middle class won't get us out of our high unemployment anytime soon. What needs to happen is to put money into the hands of those without jobs. That means unemployment pays or, preferably, job programs. Jobs programs that worked wonders in the Great Depression. Jobs programs like the one Obama spoke announced a couple weeks ago. Jobs programs that Republicans won't vote for.