welding supply wire vs others...

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

knu kolossus, maybe the eko, the KLM isn't really comparable (not all copper)

what is the KLM? i have not really looked into it

 

[Hurro 10+ year member]

So what's the comparison for? Just the wire gauge or quality of wire versus practicality?

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

So what's the comparison for? Just the wire gauge or quality of wire versus practicality?

gauge to size to price...

 

[thatkidbob 10+ year member]

So what's the comparison for? Just the wire gauge or quality of wire versus practicality?

wire = jacket + copper. so if you mean quantity of copper + flexibility of said copper when you say "quality" then yeah, this is is something like that.

 

[Dunerider5 10+ year member]

what is the KLM? i have not really looked into it

http://www.knukonceptz.com/assets/pdf/KLM.pdf

New 1/0 wire, uses 90% aluminum, they say its about equal to the eko line performance wise, but check out the price: 1.75 per foot.

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

http://www.knukonceptz.com/assets/pdf/KLM.pdf
New 1/0 wire, uses 90% aluminum, they say its about equal to the eko line performance wise, but check out the price: 1.75 per foot.

very interesting...

 

[knukonceptz 10+ year member]

It would be best if you can find out strand size and then number of each and you can compare area, which is what determines what gauge a wire is. Diameter can be deceiving just because very larger strands will have more air gaps and thus have a larger diameter. The smaller strands will be more tightly packed together.

For the most part Stinger and other reputable companies will devulge that information freely - others you need to research like you are. The welding supply stuff uses 30 gauge strands w/ neoprene jacket where most audio cables use 36 gauge strands and PVC. Neoprene is not as weather/oil resistant as PVC and the coper is not OFC. One reason our Kolossus Kable is tinned - it makes it marine grade and will never oxidize.

Oh and the KLM and KOL 1/0 are ~ 7/16"

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

It would be best if you can find out strand size and then number of each and you can compare area, which is what determines what gauge a wire is. Diameter can be deceiving just because very larger strands will have more air gaps and thus have a larger diameter. The smaller strands will be more tightly packed together.
For the most part Stinger and other reputable companies will devulge that information freely - others you need to research like you are. The welding supply stuff uses 30 gauge strands w/ neoprene jacket where most audio cables use 36 gauge strands and PVC. Neoprene is not as weather/oil resistant as PVC and the coper is not OFC. One reason our Kolossus Kable is tinned - it makes it marine grade and will never oxidize.

Oh and the KLM and KOL 1/0 are ~ 7/16"

very good info here...i have been trying to find the strand count of JL i found it for stinger and im sure its around for the kicker...i did not know about the WS wire so now i know is 30 ga but not sure how many strands...

 

[TreyE 10+ year member]

very good info here...i have been trying to find the strand count of JL i found it for stinger and im sure its around for the kicker...i did not know about the WS wire so now i know is 30 ga but not sure how many strands...

i believe kicker is 4300 strands or something like that h.o lemme go check its written on the wire...

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

very interesting...

yeah, that is. With the price of copper I was wondering when wire mfg's would start using other materials.

FWIW - if copper is taken as the ideal conductor at a value of 100...Aluminum is about 60.

 

[AJ²06 5,000+ posts]

Sweeet... Im thinking about KLM wire

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

Sweeet... Im thinking about KLM wire

I think i have decided on WS 3/0 or stinger HPM...

 

[Big Dee 10+ year member]

yeah, that is. With the price of copper I was wondering when wire mfg's would start using other materials.
FWIW - if copper is taken as the ideal conductor at a value of 100...Aluminum is about 60.

That's doesn't mean very much. The ampacity is more important when it comes to comparing aluminum and copper in power wires of equal size.

If you compare 2 1/0 gauge wires, for example, the ampacity of the aluminum wire is around 80% of the copper wire, meaning it can carry 80% of the current that the copper wire could.

Another useless bit of info - silver has better conductivity than copper, but I sure don't want to see what a 1/0 gauge run of silver wire would cost //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SQBubble 10+ year member]

thats good info!!

can u tell us if the 4/0 WS is flexible??

also.. id like to see some Monster power cable in the group, should be interesting

http://www.shopallmonster.com/MonsterPCA/productPage.asp?ProductId=23813&PIN=3111&ReturnTo=PCAshelf%2Easp

 

[photocrazy8 10+ year member]

thats good info!!
can u tell us if the 4/0 WS is flexible??

also.. id like to see some Monster power cable in the group, should be interesting

http://www.shopallmonster.com/MonsterPCA/productPage.asp?ProductId=23813&PIN=3111&ReturnTo=PCAshelf%2Easp

yea the WS 4/0 is pretty flexible for 4/0...just as good as the JL 1/0 IMO....