using a capcitor does help..........

Of course the cap recharges off of the battery //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif but, because it has stored voltage already, the cap can draw voltage from the battery, lets say 100 more times, before making the alternator send more current to the battery, then your amp being directly connected to the battery can before making the alternator send more current for charging the battery. The cap helps.
WB
wow... you seriously have the mental capacity of a 2 year old! Let me repost what you just said so that you can see how much you contradict yourself and how much of an idiot you really are:
The current draw will be the same. The difference is it will only draw current from the CAP when it is connected, not the car battery, which powers all of the other electrical devices connected in his car.
Then I reply telling you that the cap is going to be discharged while the amp is drawing current, and recharged FROM THE BATTERY, and you agree, but then continue to argue your point!! Hypocrite! You are an idiot... it's not like a cap holds some godly amount of electricity that it will charge off of your battery when the car is off and then your amp will run solely off the cap. The cap is in a constant cycle. It is ALWAYS drawing energy from the battery and the amp is ALWAYS drawing energy off of the cap(assuming the system is running). This is a constant recharge/discharge cycle. Do you understand that.... very simple circuit my friend. Nobody would even need an electrical engineering degree to understand that.

 
Of course the cap recharges off of the battery //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif but, because it has stored voltage already, the cap can draw voltage from the battery, lets say 100 more times, before making the alternator send more current to the battery, then your amp being directly connected to the battery can before making the alternator send more current for charging the battery. The cap helps.
WB
Your severe lack of understanding in the physics behind electrical circuits makes me want to throw up.

A capacitor, in every physical form, has the same mechanics. It holds charges to be released VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY, etc. rapidly. I'm not talking about a one second discharge. I'm talking about a millisecond discharge. I've done the math, a one farad cap can discharge I believe 400 watts, or something like that. Now, that's pretty good, but, what you must know is that the alternator is ALWAYS charging.

But here's a science project for you to do.

PRIOR KNOWLEDGE:

Your car needs electricity to run. To run both the spark plugs, and the ECU (unless you have an older car with a carburetor.) With this knowledge, we go onto the test:

TEST:

Start up your car, disconnect the battery from the circuit.

FINAL CONCLUSION:

THE CAR STILL RUNS!

This is because the alternator is giving a steady stream of power. In all technicality, your battery should not be needed for the actually running of your car. It's there to start your car. Period. That's what it was designed to do, and that's what it DOES do. But when you add things onto your car, aftermarket things, such as lights, and gizmos, and speakers, the battery becomes necessary.

What a battery actually does in the car audio world, is fill in when the alternator cannot supply the sufficient current.

"WOAH WOAH WOAH! WAIT SCOTT! Isn't that what CAPACITORS DO?! Now I'm just all confused!"

Capacitors have a much faster discharge rate (versus batteries). Now, I'll reiterate what I've said before. CAPACITORS HAVE AN EXTREMELY FAST DISCHARGE RATE!

So, if your system is using 50 amperes, and suddenly, it needs 150 for a millisecond. Then, yes, a capacitor will help. But if your system needs 70, and your car can only supply 50, then a capacitor won't do beans. A battery will help, but it won't fix it.

All of these things are little bandaids.

Bottom line is: if your lights are dimming, then your amp isn't getting enough current. Get a bigger alternator, or do the big 3. A capacitor AND a battery is just covering.

The small amount a capacitor helps, it hurts just as much. Because as the amplifier is trying to draw current from the alternator, so is the capacitor.

 
wow... you seriously have the mental capacity of a 2 year old! Let me repost what you just said so that you can see how much you contradict yourself and how much of an idiot you really are:

Then I reply telling you that the cap is going to be discharged while the amp is drawing current, and recharged FROM THE BATTERY, and you agree, but then continue to argue your point!! Hypocrite! You are an idiot... it's not like a cap holds some godly amount of electricity that it will charge off of your battery when the car is off and then your amp will run solely off the cap. The cap is in a constant cycle. It is ALWAYS drawing energy from the battery and the amp is ALWAYS drawing energy off of the cap(assuming the system is running). This is a constant recharge/discharge cycle. Do you understand that.... very simple circuit my friend. Nobody would even need an electrical engineering degree to understand that.
The minuscule point I was trying to make was the cap can be charged with out an alternator, a battery can't. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Godly amount of energy ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

WB

 
The minuscule point I was trying to make was the cap can be charged with out an alternator, a battery can't. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Godly amount of energy ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif
WB
ummm what do you think the cap is charging off of... the battery... which is charged off the alt. So if you take out the alt, the cap will just drain the battery and then both will be out. You really are an idiot.

 
The minuscule point I was trying to make was the cap can be charged with out an alternator, a battery can't. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Godly amount of energy ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gifWB
Actually, you are sorely wrong my friend.

 
hahahahahahahahahahaha u must have used ur superhuman physics/electrical engineering knowledge to come up with ^ that one didnt u wb?

once again, i want to know just how exactly u came up with this. i guess u must have made urself a solar powered cap. get it patented, and i'll buy 50 of them from u, to run my electrical in my truck. ur a **** genius.

ps i am still waiting for my amp

 
ummm what do you think the cap is charging off of... the battery... which is charged off the alt. So if you take out the alt, the cap will just drain the battery and then both will be out. You really are an idiot.
I understand eventually the cap will drain after the battery drains but again ! the minuscule point is, the cap is way less dependent on the alternator than a row of 2-5 batteries for better current draw. Stop trying to make yourself think a cap is a battery. It isn't designed to be a battery, only a voltage storage can, if you will.

WB

 
The minuscule point I was trying to make was the cap can be charged with out an alternator, a battery can't. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Godly amount of energy ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif
WB
... you think the cap recharges on it's own...?

 
I understand eventually the cap will drain after the battery drains but again ! the minuscule point is, the cap is way less dependent on the alternator than a row of 2-5 batteries for better current draw. Stop trying to make yourself think a cap is a battery. It isn't designed to be a battery, only a voltage storage can, if you will.
WB
You are stupid as hell.. a battery is far more efficient and will hold far more energy than any cap will ever hold. And if you take the alt out of the equation, you are going to run out of energy just as fast with a cap as you will with no cap. You are a moron if you think a cap drains less fast than a battery. It's very simple. The amp is going to pull say 50 amps, regardless of if there is or isn't an alt.

I don't see how you think a cap is less dependent on an alt than a battery bank is. Actually, I do, you are a moron and you think that because the cap is draining the battery it is less dependent on the alt. Well the battery depends on the alt, so if the cap depends on the battery, which let me remind you, runs on the alt, then the cap still depends on the alt.

 
... you think the cap recharges on it's own...?
Which is easier to charge ? a battery ? or a capacitor ?

How do you charge the capacitor ? How do you charge the battery ? give me step by step detail. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/censored.gif.f9ad8e7c6db58c5530c5a0a20a3b5baf.gif

WB

 
You are stupid as hell.. a battery is far more efficient and will hold far more energy than any cap will ever hold. And if you take the alt out of the equation, you are going to run out of energy just as fast with a cap as you will with no cap. You are a moron if you think a cap drains less fast than a battery. It's very simple. The amp is going to pull say 50 amps, regardless of if there is or isn't an alt.
I don't see how you think a cap is less dependent on an alt than a battery bank is. Actually, I do, you are a moron and you think that because the cap is draining the battery it is less dependent on the alt. Well the battery depends on the alt, so if the cap depends on the battery, which let me remind you, runs on the alt, then the cap still depends on the alt.
Can you charge your car battery with out an alternator or charger ? Can a cap be charged with out an alternator or charger ? So which depends on an alternator the most ?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/popcorn.gif.32dd9e22fd77e77bc3c907062768fcd2.gif

WB

 
Which is easier to charge ? a battery ? or a capacitor ?
How do you charge the capacitor ? How do you charge the battery ? give me step by step detail. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/censored.gif.f9ad8e7c6db58c5530c5a0a20a3b5baf.gif

WB
I just told you... and they are both going to be the same to charge you moron. The ability of it to charge has nothing to do with if it is a cap or a battery, but rather how many amps or "farads" your battery or cap is.

Once again... a battery is charged from an alternator.

A cap is charged from a battery... but wait go back and read what the battery is charged off of.

Oh yeah, the alternator... so let's do some deductive reasoning.

The cap charges off the battery which charges off the alt, so in essence the cap charges off the battery.

If caps are so great you should do this. Buy another cap, and take out your battery completely. Run one cap for your amp, and use the other for your car electrical (lights, etc.)... no tell me what is the cap charging off of?

 
Can you charge your car battery with out an alternator or charger ? Can a cap be charged with out an alternator or charger ? So which depends on an alternator the most ?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/popcorn.gif.32dd9e22fd77e77bc3c907062768fcd2.gif
WB
You are seriously stupid. You expect people to think you studied electrical engineering? Tell me, go take the alt out of your car and neither you battery nor your cap will charge. Both depend on the alternator. Take the battery out of the equation and run your cap straight from the alternator. Now do you understand what the cap is charged on?

Let me tell you ONE more time... a cap runs through the battery, which runs through the alt, so without the alt, neither will charge. Do you get that now?

 
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