using a capcitor does help..........

[wishbone 10+ year member]

Wait, so you are noticing SIGNIFICANT dimming from 500Watts? Are you telling me that your 5 Farad capacitor is assisting your Alternator with the HUGE under 40amp draw from your 500watts of RAW power?
If you are getting dimming from 500watts, I'm surprised you can roll up your windows without a capacitor on them.

PS: OP, please link us to your super current drawing amp so we can determine if you are worthy of that 5F cap, thanks!

If you weren't so against the cap and you weren't so ignorant to how the thing was designed to work, you never would have asked if the cap was assisting my alternator. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

WB

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

i remove my cap few weeks ago since it killed my 1608d. Anyway, i put a 2006d and i don't know if it's because the amp is inneficient or because the cap was helping a lot, but my voltage drop are atrocious now, my hu and eq even shut down //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

i think its more a 400watt watt and inneficiency of older bxi model problem... but still i wasn't getting as much dimming before... i don't want to give the cap a credit //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Pr1m3 10+ year member]

xprime4, if you could do us a favor and test current from your amp before and after you have the cap in, if you don't mind.

Wishbone, if your alternator could handle it then you wouldn't need a Cap now would you? Therefore, it's assisting the alternator.

If I'm so ignorant on how the thing works, please explain, because I must be a full blown retard and I never knew it.

 

[Scoobydoo 5,000+ posts]

If I'm so ignorant on how the thing works, please explain, because I must be a full blown retard and I never knew it.

agreed cause it is the only post i have read in this thread

 

[Pr1m3 10+ year member]

Your battery being connected straight to your amps , doesn't have anything regulate the juice from pooring out.WB

While we are at it Wishbone, explain why your car did not happen to catch on fire when you didn't have a cap in, you know, will all that power juice pooring out of your battery all the time.

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

i remove my cap few weeks ago since it killed my 1608d. Anyway, i put a 2006d and i don't know if it's because the amp is inneficient or because the cap was helping a lot, but my voltage drop are atrocious now, my hu and eq even shut down //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif
i think its more a 400watt watt and inneficiency of older bxi model problem... but still i wasn't getting as much dimming before... i don't want to give the cap a credit //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

The CAP does what it was exactly designed to do whether we like it or not.

WB

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

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xprime4, if you could do us a favor and test current from your amp before and after you have the cap in, if you don't mind.
Wishbone, if your alternator could handle it then you wouldn't need a Cap now would you? Therefore, it's assisting the alternator.

If I'm so ignorant on how the thing works, please explain, because I must be a full blown retard and I never knew it.

The current draw will be the same. The difference is it will only draw current from the CAP when it is connected, not the car battery, which powers all of the other electrical devices connected in his car. That is how I know it helps. If he has a CAP like mine he can see the amount of AMPS being drawn while the music plays.

If you have the biggest alternator in the world, and it was never regulated to power your 5 amps you still will experience dimming. Now I have to bring out the mechanic experience on you. MOST if NOT all alternator have a regulator HERE LIES THE PROBLEM with the big three. Your alternator only delivers more current to the battery when it senses the battery voltage has droped to a certain level. When the battery is at a normal voltage, it backs off from sending current to the battery for recharging. In other words although you have upgraded to the big three, you are now stressing out a more expensive alternator.

With a cap installed and charged before you begin to use it, only loses voltage in such quick spurts it does not effect the alternator. Remember, the alternator works in conjuction with the battery, not accessories starving for more juice. The cap works off of stored voltage which is why they are helping when an amplifier demands more power. If you amps are in need of power and you don't have a cap installed , it will only get what the battery will send it when the battery is at full charge. If the battery is draining quickly, the amp now has to wait for the alternator to get battery back up to full charge for your amps to benifit, not the same when a cap is installed because caps charge VERY FAST ! I charged my cap in 11 seconds, 5 farads. I hope this helps. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smokin.gif.f1dc8d2acb1809e863ebd6a47eaa0d45.gif

WB

ps my car catching fire is irrelevant.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx 10+ year member]

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The current draw will be the same. The difference is it will only draw current from the CAP when it is connected, not the car battery, which powers all of the other electrical devices connected in his car.

Are you retarded... when the amp draws from the cap and lowers the voltage, where do you think the cap is going to draw its current from to replenish the voltage?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

Are you retarded... when the amp draws from the cap and lowers the voltage, where do you think the cap is going to draw its current from to replenish the voltage?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

Of course the cap recharges off of the battery //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif but, because it has stored voltage already, the cap can draw voltage from the battery, lets say 100 more times, before making the alternator send more current to the battery, then your amp being directly connected to the battery can before making the alternator send more current for charging the battery. The cap helps.

WB

 

[t-money 10+ year member]

Of course the cap recharges off of the battery //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif but, because it has stored voltage already, the cap can draw voltage from the battery, lets say 100 more times, before making the alternator send more current to the battery, then your amp being directly connected to the battery can before making the alternator send more current for charging the battery. The cap helps.
WB

i really didn't even want to post in this thread but this last comment was just dumb. First get a cap with a voltage readout and see how it works. One bass note will drain the cap in seconds, then the cap gets recharged from the battery. If you look at the voltage readout you would notice that while playing bass the cap doesn't even get charged back to 14 volts because the bass is draining it quickly, therefore its not storing voltage, its like its not even there. The altemator is always recharging your battery when the car is on, so whether you have a cap or not the alt is sending voltage to the battery and amp. AGAIN WHEN THE CAR IS RUNNING THE ALT IS CONSTANTLY SENDING VOLTAGE TO THE BATTERY, NOT JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT WOULD NEED TOO.You are ignorant and have a lot to learn about caps. I used to use caps and they worked fine for me, so i'm not really even putting them down, just learn how they work with the rest of your electrical and you won't sound like an idiot. Whether you use a cap or not is your choice, but learn what they really do before running off at the mouth

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

xprime4, if you could do us a favor and test current from your amp before and after you have the cap in, if you don't mind.
Wishbone, if your alternator could handle it then you wouldn't need a Cap now would you? Therefore, it's assisting the alternator.

If I'm so ignorant on how the thing works, please explain, because I must be a full blown retard and I never knew it.

Well the Capacitor got what it deserved... a painful death //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I swap amp at the same time i had to remove it anyway so there's no way to tell...

 

[Pr1m3 10+ year member]

Burton and T-Money said it perfectly.

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

i really didn't even want to post in this thread but this last comment was just dumb. First get a cap with a voltage readout and see how it works. One bass note will drain the cap in seconds, then the cap gets recharged from the battery. If you look at the voltage readout you would notice that while playing bass the cap doesn't even get charged back to 14 volts because the bass is draining it quickly, therefore its not storing voltage, its like its not even there. The altemator is always recharging your battery when the car is on, so whether you have a cap or not the alt is sending voltage to the battery and amp. AGAIN WHEN THE CAR IS RUNNING THE ALT IS CONSTANTLY SENDING VOLTAGE TO THE BATTERY, NOT JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT WOULD NEED TOO.You are ignorant and have a lot to learn about caps. I used to use caps and they worked fine for me, so i'm not really even putting them down, just learn how they work with the rest of your electrical and you won't sound like an idiot. Whether you use a cap or not is your choice, but learn what they really do before running off at the mouth

Why are you sounding like you never graduated eighth grade. If your IGNORANT CLOWNISH FOOLISH self would have taken 2 minutes to read a few of my post or just went to check my pics, you would know I have the cap with the amp and voltage read out and YES the voltage drains on MINE for a few seconds and returns to 14.5 volts, but on your SET UP ! I don't have a clew what is going on ! so don't compare your silly situation to mine unless you have the same exact set up !!!!!!!!!!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif

WB

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

Burton and T-Money said it perfectly.

Said what ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 

[Dak446 10+ year member]

seriously wishbone, stop posting, and send me that amp!!! u have been pwnd noob give it up.

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

seriously wishbone, stop posting, and send me that amp!!! u have been pwnd noob give it up.

This is the last band wagon remark I will respond to. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif

WB

PS noob ? I bet you don't know twice as much as I do. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Dak446 10+ year member]

haha obviously. by starting a thread that says "using a capacitor does help.....". that really shows ur level of intelligence

im not on a bandwagon. i won ur stupid little bet, and now u owe me one of the most expensive amps made =) me>u

 

[Pr1m3 10+ year member]

I bet you don't know twice as much as I do. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Wait, that's not a very good comeback at all...

WB: As long as the bandwagon is proven true, then hell, I'll ride that **** all day. The fact that you feel like you are surrounded by haters is not because you made a global breakthrough in the car audio world, it's cause you are wrong, completely, utterly, and blatantly incorrect.

/THREAD

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

Can't believe this thread is still going. Let the so called electrical engineer with his shiny white paper called a degree think what he thinks. I see no factual data that supports his claims. Without facts, it's just an opinion.

 

[wishbone 10+ year member]

Wait, that's not a very good comeback at all...
WB: As long as the bandwagon is proven true, then hell, I'll ride that **** all day. The fact that you feel like you are surrounded by haters is not because you made a global breakthrough in the car audio world, it's cause you are wrong, completely, utterly, and blatantly incorrect.

/THREAD

This is what make me think something is wrong ! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif Somebody just posted they used a cap and it worked for them. SO WHY is that being ignored ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

I just can't beleive these caps are selling because a few people in this forum had good experiences with them. Are there better ways to improve a system ? My answer is, I haven't tried yet. I did run 1/0 wire and believe it or not I think I lost power. But that is going to be another thread once I find out why. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif:laugh://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

WB