Unplugged sub, now sub + door speakers don't work

[alifaith10]

Buddy... it's ALL good... you've been fumbling around all day... LOL!.. some pics will or would have been a help... by calling this toxic it is stating that I personally would NOT give advice to help remedy the problem... as I am unsure as to your level of knowledge... the terms you use do not jive and you are combative as well (oh well)... I would post some pics of your battery area, amp at the input and output... ( that's speakers, RCA's and power connections)... and maybe you'll get somewhere... as it stands... it seems to me that you've got nothing to lose...

I have literally been fumbling around all day as I was just diagnosed with a broken foot today so yeah, you're right. Please explain how I've been combative. I even had a poster comment that "boomin_tahoe" was provoking me for no reason, if that's what you're referring to. I have very little knowledge in regards to car audio, which as you stated is pretty obvious, hence why I'm posting here. Thankfully Yukon and youdoofus were able to help me out quite a bit. I provided model numbers. I don't have a camera or a cell phone. Next time maybe chime in and help instead of "watch the toxicity unfold", because there really wasn't much toxicity going on anywhere, besides what you posted, unless you're referring to the guy who wanted to make **** sure if I was still an electrician, or used to be. Really important to the matter at hand..

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

I have literally been fumbling around all day as I was just diagnosed with a broken foot today so yeah, you're right. Please explain how I've been combative. I have very little knowledge in regards to car audio, which as you stated is pretty obvious.

Well, I'm sorry about your foot... I had a neurologist appointment today as well... and the combativeness is evident in this very reply... re-read the whole thread... anyone can see it... but that's a moot issue... post some pics and you'll likely get some solid advice... even if I have to do it... typing is very difficult as I am a very bad stroke survivor... LOL!

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Well you have ~12 years of experience based on your join date and I'd like any input you have but I don't know where the communication breakdown is happening between us lol. Either way, good day!


I haven't been toxic. I don't know much about car audio, hence why I'm here asking for help, which everyone but you and "Boomin_tahoe" has provided. I can take pictures of my speakers not working if you want though. I didn't wire my car, or I'd know more about it, and am learning a lot.

I said I wasn't gonna comment anymore but I won't put up with liars.....I already tried to help you in the beginning. Go re read it if you forgot Mr electrician.

 

[alifaith10]

Well, I'm sorry about your foot... I had a neurologist appointment today as well... and the combativeness is evident in this very reply... re-read the whole thread... anyone can see it... but that's a moot issue... post some pics and you'll likely get some solid advice... even if I have to do it... typing is very difficult as I am a very bad stroke survivor... LOL!

This is what you're doing:



Is "Mr Electrician" supposed to be some kind of insult? You posted two replies asking for info which I gave you, then you started arguing with me about semantics for some odd reason. Really not sure what I'm lying about either.

You two gentleman have a good night/morning/whatever it is where you are.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

This is what you're doing:

lol omg...some people. I think OP needs a reality check.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

I can already see where this is going... (too bad there isn't a toilet emoji)

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

lol omg...some people. I think OP needs a reality check.

Cool man... I'm sure EVERYONE will come to this guy's rescue... he IS an idiot of the GREATEST magnitude and I wish him the best... I tried to fix his approach to this easily but he persists in turning this into a quagmire... "Can't save em' all"... LOL!

 

[alifaith10]

Cool man... I'm sure EVERYONE will come to this guy's rescue... he IS an idiot of the GREATEST magnitude and I wish him the best... I tried to fix his approach to this easily but he persists in turning this into a quagmire... "Can't save em' all"... LOL!

I'm gonna give this "ignore user" function a whirl. Hopefully these two users can stop... whatever it is they're doing.

Latest update minus the trolling:

I plugged my home stereo speaker into the sub leads. Worked 100%, all bass.

So what's up? Did I blow my sub and my door speakers? Everything else checked out. I'm assuming the same thing will happen if I do it with the door speakers, so basically I need 3 speakers now, great. Wondering if I can troubleshoot the sub itself or test it in any way? Perhaps just plug it into my TV where I got the other speaker from and see what happens? Lol.

Anyone have a clue why/how this may have happened? Would touching the sub leads together on accident somehow fry the door speakers or is it all coincidence / some other issue going on somewhere else? Have had the set-up nearly 4 years and have tried everything in the thread, and have just nailed that the speakers simply aren't working [hence swapping out the sub with another sub worked].

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Good luck on your issue.

 

[youdoofus]

@alifaith10 every person who has commented in this thread has done so in good faith trying to help you out. I get that youre frustrated with your situation, but they have very good points. Post up some pics so we can see what youre dealing with.

I didnt think we were testing the sub just so we are on the same page btw.

I hope your foot gets better, and we surely dont want to exacerbate the situation with your injury by having you monkey around in your car, despite full recognition of how important it is to have tunes in said car. Many of us have issues we are dealing with injury wise, hell @shredder1 had a pretty severe stroke and it is difficult for him to type and he is still trying to help. Hell, i have a botched bilateral hernia repair that causes me pain all day, every day. Scoliosis which makes my back ache all day every day. A bum left knee that ive had 3 surgeries on that makes standing, sitting and even laying hurt and ive been bearing most of my 207 lbs on my right knee due to that for the last 20 years and its starting to take its toll on the "good knee". So, while knowing that you didnt need a litany of 70% of my medical issues, it might help for you to understand that we all can identify with your plight. We feel your pain.

I do think that some of the things you typed were a little angst ridden and perhaps sounded better in your head than without the benefit of inflection that is the bane of online text based conversations.

Let us know what you are physically capable of without further injuring your foot and if youre able to, post some pics of your setup so we can fully diagnose your issue and work towards a resolution. Trust me when i say this, the sole intention of people replying (particularly in this thread) is to help. We all can be intentionally unhelpful with the purpose of being funny sometimes, (refer to the last few pages of this thread http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifiers/633121-whats-called.html) but the intent here is to get your stuff playing music again.

 

[youdoofus]

Ok so here's what I did after I got a knee brace up to my thighs.
I plugged my home stereo speaker into the sub leads. Worked 100%, all bass.

So what's up? Did I blow my sub and my door speakers? Everything else checked out. I'm assuming the same thing will happen if I do it with the door speakers, so basically I need 3 speakers now, great. Wondering if I can troubleshoot the sub itself or test it in any way? Perhaps just plug it into my TV where I got the other speaker from and see what happens? Lol.

Anyone have a clue why/how this may have happened? Would touching the sub leads together on accident somehow fry the door speakers or is it all coincidence / some other issue going on somewhere else? Have had the set-up nearly 4 years and have tried everything in the thread, and have just nailed that the speakers simply aren't working [hence swapping out the sub with another sub worked]

i think where you went wrong here is that you wanted to connect your home speaker to one of the full range channels, not the sub channel

 

[alifaith10]

i think where you went wrong here is that you wanted to connect your home speaker to one of the full range channels, not the sub channel

I don't know what you mean by this. I connected the home speaker directly to the speaker wire for the sub (+/-) coming from the amp and it worked. In my mind that means the car sub is bad, no? The only perplexing thing is how could the sub and two door speakers die at the same time, which makes no sense. 3 speakers died at once simultaneously when I moved things around or something internally went insane and broke 3 of the speakers coincidentally, I just don't see what else it could be. I will bring my sub inside and test it out today to see if it works, and I also want to pop open the doors and do the same test to identify if those speakers are "dead" as well.

I'm fully medical capable of doing whatever right now, I mean I walked on the broken foot for 3 weeks (dumb) thinking it was just a sprain. Got a big *** boot that nullifies the pain but just slows me down about 75%.

Let us know what you are physically capable of without further injuring your foot and if youre able to, post some pics of your setup so we can fully diagnose your issue and work towards a resolution. Trust me when i say this, the sole intention of people replying (particularly in this thread) is to help. We all can be intentionally unhelpful with the purpose of being funny sometimes, (refer to the last few pages of this thread What's this called) but the intent here is to get your stuff playing music again.

I have no intentions of arguing with anyone but I'm not gonna be a pushover, especially online where everything is life and death. But really I don't mind, I just want to get my **** working, and considered 97% of everything I said to be "very nice" which couldn't be said about 2 other posters in this thread. I realize I'm a new poster and I was being rather cordial. It's not my fault the one guy has some vendetta against dirty dirty "electricians" and the other thinks I'm, what was it, the biggest idiot in the world, or something along those lines. I have a MSc and was a satellite technician in the USAF; If I don't know how to do something I'll figure it out but I don't need to be insulted by anyone but I've ignored those users and would like to "move on".

And honestly I don't have a camera or a cell phone. I can't take pictures. It's a very straight forward 4+1 set-up though, my only limitation is that I didn't install it so I can't be as helpful as someone who did their own car. I had them put in when I was working 90 hours a week and just didn't have time but did have money! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[youdoofus]

I don't know what you mean by this. I connected the home speaker directly to the speaker wire for the sub (+/-) coming from the amp and it worked. In my mind that means the car sub is bad, no? The only perplexing thing is how could the sub and two door speakers die at the same time, which makes no sense. 3 speakers died at once simultaneously when I moved things around or something internally went insane and broke 3 of the speakers coincidentally, I just don't see what else it could be. I will bring my sub inside and test it out today to see if it works, and I also want to pop open the doors and do the same test to identify if those speakers are "dead" as well.
I'm fully medical capable of doing whatever right now, I mean I walked on the broken foot for 3 weeks (dumb) thinking it was just a sprain. Got a big *** boot that nullifies the pain but just slows me down about 75%.

I have no intentions of arguing with anyone but I'm not gonna be a pushover, especially online where everything is life and death. But really I don't mind, I just want to get my **** working, and considered 97% of everything I said to be "very nice".

well, do the same thing you did with the sub channel of your amp with one of the full range channels that isnt producing any sound from the door speakers. I.e. if the front right speaker isnt producing sound, hook the test speaker up to that channel of your amp

 

[alifaith10]

i wouldnt do that first. Get any speaker thats over 4 ohms (i.e. even a house speaker) and connect it to the +- of one channel of the amp. If it works, repeat the test on all 4 channels. If if doesnt, try to plug an alternate source into the rca ins on the amp and repeat the test

Well I did do this with the sub and it worked. I'll try it with the door speakers if that's what you meant. Don't know what kind of alternate source I could try using that has RCA's... also if the 2 door speakers "work" with the house speaker what would that indicate? 3 dead speakers at once from something I did moving the amp, or crazy coincidence? Hell I've checked every wire and every fuse in the car.

 

[alifaith10]

well, do the same thing you did with the sub channel of your amp with one of the full range channels that isnt producing any sound from the door speakers. I.e. if the front right speaker isnt producing sound, hook the test speaker up to that channel of your amp

That's the plan. I'm putting my money that the door leads will work (with the test speaker), and if that's the case - what the hell happened to make 3 speakers die at once? It all happened when I did unplug the sub and shoved some rather big items in my car.. maybe something just hit something and make those things "pop" or it's something else. That's what's confusing me now with the home speaker test (if it works with the door leads). One friend looked at it and commented the amp was running "very hot" but I mean hell it's under a seat in a black car in 90 degree weather, so IDK. It has been 4 years... maybe the amp is frying? Not sure what the life span is on a tiny amp with a tiny fan. I don't want to buy 3 new speakers and have them get fried again (if they are).

I'm gonna bring the sub inside and plug my home entertainment into it and see if it works as well.