Type R...dissapointed

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

anybody know who can test an amp?? I'm almost willing to send mine to anyone to see what kind of power it puts out... be nice to get some more bench test results on a bigger amp

 

[chithead81 10+ year member]

I had two 12" Type R's on an Orion 2250SX with 1.65 cu. ft per sub ported like Alpine recommended. I can't remember one person that could sit in my CRX for more than 30 seconds when those things would get going. Only subs I've ever had that would cause the dashboard to flex in the middle.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I was thinking that. But should it not be louder than a Q off the same watts? I mean, the Q can take much more too...


I'm thinking of taking out my rear speakers for more airflow. My deck lid thing rattles like CRAZY too. I"m not quite sure how i'm goin to get rid of it yet.

You are comparing the R to a sub that costs approximately twice as much. I don't see where your major confusion comes in when the costlier sub performs better.

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

You are comparing the R to a sub that costs approximately twice as much. I don't see where your major confusion comes in when the costlier sub performs better.

Thats what I was thinkin.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[PSturmer 10+ year member]

there good for the money. most of the time people dont have them in the right enclosures to get loud.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Arrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I didn't realize the R's took such small specs for an enclosure ported. Hell I had my two sealed in a 1.75 per chamber. Slammed though, off 1000rms, so 500rms a sub and was doing 141.2 in a cavalier. Sounded pretty good too.

 

[skateboardkid 10+ year member]

max gain setting

. Have no idea what I did to get this. Bass EQ on the amp is maxxed out, as is the bass on the HU. Or maybe, I don't know what clipping sounds like? I was under the assumption it would be like the gains on the speakers where it changes tone.

you sub might live through a week of those setttings but more likely you are gonna smoke the VC unless you set the gains different, turn off all bass boosts, and set your gains using a DMM..

A bigger box might help in the efficiency department, gettign you louder off of the power you do have available.

Look into a line driver it sounds like your RCA voltage is more like a tenth of a volt instead of the claimed 2.2volts.

 

[reid1boys 10+ year member]

Want to sell the type R you are disappointed in?

 

[NJTStang11 10+ year member]

#1-Camry trunks **** for getting bass thru

#2-You need more power

#3-Your box could be bigger, and tuned a lil higher.

 

[7ender 10+ year member]

Okay, well for now I can live with the type r.

But other than that- I can't find how the Bass EQ on the amp affects the sub as compared to the Bass on the head unit. I know, noob question. Is the bass EQ on the amp just like a regular equalizer that will cause clipping if I have it all the way up? What about the one on the head unit? I know some HU's have a separate control for the sublevel, but mine doesn't.

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

Turning any knob all the way up anywhere is just stupid.

Nuff Said

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

Okay, well for now I can live with the type r.

But other than that- I can't find how the Bass EQ on the amp affects the sub as compared to the Bass on the head unit. I know, noob question. Is the bass EQ on the amp just like a regular equalizer that will cause clipping if I have it all the way up? What about the one on the head unit? I know some HU's have a separate control for the sublevel, but mine doesn't.

No idea what you mean by the Bass EQ? Is this the crossover(high-pass)? Or subsonic filter? Or Bass Boost?

My guess is bass boost and that should be all the way down. With the gain set with a DMM. Cross it over around 80 with the ssf just a tid below tuning.

 

[7ender 10+ year member]

I'm actually not sure. I don't have a subsonic filter, and my crossover is set through my HU at 100hz. I woulda crossed lower, but I'm overpowering my speakers already and don't want to blow them out.

I think it might be the bass boost, it just says "bass eq" on the knob. I have it maxxed out, cause at 0 it's very weak.

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

I'm actually not sure. I don't have a subsonic filter, and my crossover is set through my HU at 100hz. I woulda crossed lower, but I'm overpowering my speakers already and don't want to blow them out.


I think it might be the bass boost, it just says "bass eq" on the knob. I have it maxxed out, cause at 0 it's very weak.

I think your headunit is produceing too lwo of a voltage source as teh input, but your bass eq or bass knob should never be all teh way up. Thats BAD!

This is what ******s do to their 12" rockford p2 systems they get installed at quality auto sound.

 

[reid1boys 10+ year member]

I am going to guess that you simple dont have all of your settings correct and this is why it doesnt sound like you want it.

ALL of your settings should start at 0 or no gain. Then simply adjust at the EQ and you should be good. I would bet you lunch you just have things wrong and that is causing your problem.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

I'm actually not sure. I don't have a subsonic filter, and my crossover is set through my HU at 100hz. I woulda crossed lower, but I'm overpowering my speakers already and don't want to blow them out.


I think it might be the bass boost, it just says "bass eq" on the knob. I have it maxxed out, cause at 0 it's very weak.

Turn Bass Boost all the way down on the amplifier!!! (to the left, counter clock wise)

There should be a crossover on the amplifier itself as well.

Make sure any settings on your headunit related to sub output are on, and if there is a sub level adjustment on the hu, turn that up all the way.

Adjust the gain on the amplifier from there.

Might be too late though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[7ender 10+ year member]

I wish someone could come help me set it up right. I know I have it wrong, and will probably clip my sub to death within the next week : (.

If i put the bass eq on the amp down all the way, the sub doesn't even play.

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

I wish someone could come help me set it up right. I know I have it wrong, and will probably clip my sub to death within the next week : (.

If i put the bass eq on the amp down all the way, the sub doesn't even play.

I honestly dont think its necessary to turn it all the way down. I think you want it in the middle (ex. my pioneer goes from like -6 to +6 put it on 0). All the way down is deff. not going to be heard.

 

[MikeyB 5,000+ posts]

I honestly dont think its necessary to turn it all the way down. I think you want it in the middle (ex. my pioneer goes from like -6 to +6 put it on 0). All the way down is deff. not going to be heard.

It depends on the amp, some of them are all the way down (fully to the left) and some of them are at 0 when dead middle. It should be labeled on the amplifier casing though.

To the OP- To make it simple for you, look at the side of the amp. If the 'Bass EQ' is labeled with +12db or something similar, turn it to 0.

Now, look for the Input Sensitivity/Gain, this will be labeled with voltage, i.e. 0.5 volts and so on.

Also, there will be a crossover, labeled from around 50-250hz.

Turn the 'Bass EQ' to 0, turn the crossover to around 80, and set the 'Input Sensitivity/Gain' with a dmm, or for testing purposes put it between half and three-quarter and see how much ouput you have.

If there is little to no ouput, then you have either:

1) A damaged amplifier or

2) A low input voltage from your headunit/damaged headunit

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Understand?