The Official Type R Thread

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

Ok forget about the SX already. In the subs same price range how does it compare to other drivers. For daily use...

 

[Roasted 10+ year member]

Ok forget about the SX already. In the subs same price range how does it compare to other drivers. For daily use...

That's what I'm comparing, because I was looking at a single SX or a pair of Type R's. The test concluded that the Type R beat out the SX, despite the fact they were in slightly different power ranges. If it beats out the SX, I think it's safe to say the SE will be on the list of defeated woofers too...

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

That's what I'm comparing, because I was looking at a single SX or a pair of Type R's. The test concluded that the Type R beat out the SX, despite the fact they were in slightly different power ranges. If it beats out the SX, I think it's safe to say the SE will be on the list of defeated woofers too...

Your missing my point. As I'm sure everyone else is.

This was an SPL related test. The Type-r put up some amazing numbers in an SPL box with a lot of power. Better than the SX in their test. Now if you are buying the type-r to use in SPL comps than this thread is helpfull to you.

If you are choosing a better driver to buy for daily bumping, this is not the thread for you.

How do they compare to equal drivers on RMS power in basic ported boxes. Do they still walk over the competition. Do we have any daily bumping comparisons? Or is everyone raving about these because of a great SPL score?

SPL is not the only deciding factor when choosing a sub, unless you are competing.

This was a SPL test.

 

[dubrx 10+ year member]

well now that im considering the R's over one SX...is 2.5 enough space for a 12" R and where is a place to get the R from authorized dealer for cheap..ebay has 2 12's for 200 plus shipping so considering doing that...1200 to much to feed daily to one 12?

 

[Roasted 10+ year member]

Your missing my point. As I'm sure everyone else is.
This was an SPL related test. The Type-r put up some amazing numbers in an SPL box with a lot of power. Better than the SX in their test. Now if you are buying the type-r to use in SPL comps than this thread is helpfull to you.

If you are choosing a better driver to buy for daily bumping, this is not the thread for you.

How do they compare to equal drivers on RMS power in basic ported boxes. Do they still walk over the competition. Do we have any daily bumping comparisons? Or is everyone raving about these because of a great SPL score?

SPL is not the only deciding factor when choosing a sub, unless you are competing.

This was a SPL test.

I understand. But the bottom line is, I can get two R's for the price of one SX. Because of this test, hands down I am going for the Type R. Because, you figure... if a single Type R could outdue an SX in an spl test, then I'd rather go that route because with the situation I'm in, it's a PAIR of Type R's, or a single SX. It's pretty much a no brainer decision to me.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

I understand. But the bottom line is, I can get two R's for the price of one SX. Because of this test, hands down I am going for the Type R. Because, you figure... if a single Type R could outdue an SX in an spl test, then I'd rather go that route because with the situation I'm in, it's a PAIR of Type R's, or a single SX. It's pretty much a no brainer decision to me.

Yep and I agree. I would also choose the 2 r's over 1 SX.

Just making sure you and everyone else understood the context of this test. So by stating the type-r will beat out a SE is overboard on assumption. In an SPL test yes it will but SPL is not the only factor to a subs worth.

That's it simple as that

 

[Roasted 10+ year member]

Yep and I agree. I would also choose the 2 r's over 1 SX.
Just making sure you and everyone else understood the context of this test. So by stating the type-r will beat out a SE is overboard on assumption. In an SPL test yes it will but SPL is not the only factor to a subs worth.

That's it simple as that

Yeah, I know what you mean. But someone looking for SPL this test might prove to be extremely useful. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Anyway, I was going to go with the Type R's from the get-go. But these recent threads and tests I've read about with the 05's just seem to boost that idea even more.

 

[Spkrman]

I always wondered. Sure they put up a good number in an SPL box, burped at a high frequency, and feed more than double the RMS rating.
But how would they compare to say a RE SE, Kicker L7, Fosgate P3 in a basic ported box with the actuall RMS and playing music.

I think all this hype is overlooked as a basic SPL score in an SPL box with ungodly amounts of power. Do we have any street beater opinions? How do they compare?

Is peaking at 44hz a high frequency fart box??? tuning was approx 35hz... The setup plays music like nobody's business //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

The type R sounds better all around, WHILE handling more power and STILL being just as effeciant!

We tested in the 15" version of both woofers and same story.

The SX is a better fart woof, the R is a better daily driving woof flat out.

The sexxx was part of the 10" test.... and before that we put SE against sexxx and the sexxx was just all out better. Therefore... SE doesnt even compare to type R.

EVery sub above looks WAY THE HELL better on paper than the type R... but for whatever reason the R is better at everything! Tommy took a while to get one because he just didnt think it would be better than the SX.. turned out the SX couldnt break a 147 because it couldnt handle the power. The type R 148.9 and it keeps on truckin. 500 RMS my arse....

 

[Roasted 10+ year member]

Is peaking at 44hz a high frequency fart box??? tuning was approx 35hz... The setup plays music like nobody's business //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
The type R sounds better all around, WHILE handling more power and STILL being just as effeciant!

We tested in the 15" version of both woofers and same story.

The SX is a better fart woof, the R is a better daily driving woof flat out.

The sexxx was part of the 10" test.... and before that we put SE against sexxx and the sexxx was just all out better. Therefore... SE doesnt even compare to type R.

As a current SE owner, I might be in for a treat. I mean, I LOVE my SE too! I can't even see myself selling it, I might give it to my girlfriend so I can at least still have visitation rights. hahaha. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Roasted 10+ year member]

Is peaking at 44hz a high frequency fart box??? tuning was approx 35hz... The setup plays music like nobody's business //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
The type R sounds better all around, WHILE handling more power and STILL being just as effeciant!

We tested in the 15" version of both woofers and same story.

The SX is a better fart woof, the R is a better daily driving woof flat out.

The sexxx was part of the 10" test.... and before that we put SE against sexxx and the sexxx was just all out better. Therefore... SE doesnt even compare to type R.

EVery sub above looks WAY THE HELL better on paper than the type R... but for whatever reason the R is better at everything! Tommy took a while to get one because he just didnt think it would be better than the SX.. turned out the SX couldnt break a 147 because it couldnt handle the power. The type R 148.9 and it keeps on truckin. 500 RMS my arse....

Well, how do you think it would sound with 500 RMS though? I'll be sending about 550 RMS to each if I get a pair.

Also, I've asked a few times but haven't heard much input on this. What has changed from the 04 R's to the 05 R's? What changes were made to cause this conversion?

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

I never said it was a "fart box" just an SPL box. I'm sure it is rather rigid with plenty of bracing and a double baffle.

So you can over power the R in a basic ported box. And it will still sound amazing on music. Basically retain some SQ. That's all I was wondering

 

[Spkrman]

and I didn't say anything negative about you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Spkrman]

Yeah, but I was referring to what specs they changed to get the output they did.
I guess maybe the 05 Type R was a project in itself, let alone the Type X rolling out.

Now, if the Type R (2005) was tested to be a tad better than the SX, then is the Type X comparable to the XXX?

the XXX isn't nearly as loud as the SX, the SQ is there though (to most) I personally don't like how it sounds. XXX = not much punch.

 

[Spkrman]

I never said it was a "fart box" just an SPL box. I'm sure it is rather rigid with plenty of bracing and a double baffle.
So you can over power the R in a basic ported box. And it will still sound amazing on music. Basically retain some SQ. That's all I was wondering

no bracing

no double baffle

its a box thats the right size and tuning for the car... thats what SPL is all about //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

and yes... particularly at high volume the type R sounds way the hell better than the SX... SX = 147 and nearly explodes.... type R 147 and it sounds perfect.

 

[Spkrman]

Well, how do you think it would sound with 500 RMS though? I'll be sending about 550 RMS to each if I get a pair.
Also, I've asked a few times but haven't heard much input on this. What has changed from the 04 R's to the 05 R's? What changes were made to cause this conversion?

I've done a few setups with the type R... one recently in a taurus. I think his name is "custel" here?

One type R 12 did a 142.9 with about 750-800 watts.... this being in a 100% music box.

He had 2 of em in a custom designed (by someone on here....) ported box that could only pull a 139.7 off the same amp while not sounding as good.

The latter results are typical, the 142.9 is with one of my boxes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Wait till he gets the other one of my boxes in there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif