again, you're making it seem like the sub is solely responsible for the score.... it all depends on the application.... with the right box, a w7 will beat the living **** out of a type-s..... however, people spending that much money on the w7 probably arent looking for a one note wonder and going for SQ(L) instead... should everyone with a w7 go out and sell their sub and get type-s' just b/c they can hit 150+? not everyone in car audio has the sole purpose of doing well on the meter....i honestly dont get wtf you're trying to argue....