always check with the forum for better pricing man. I'd go with 4k and up with taramps or any other brazilians thats when their price to performance ratio shines. Under that you can get koreans with clipping indicator knob included for very similar price threshold. I'm cool with brazilian but not what they have 3k watts and under price wise.370 total sounded good to me for a 2000+amp. And yes it was new
Still, popwarhomie woulda hooked you up.Compared to most korean amps like the one I have are priced higher than these per watt. And mines a cheaper one. They seem to use less amperage. I don't need even 2500 wrms anyways, I'll be good with 1500-1700