Sundown vs American bass

[bullshit8421]

So I've narrowed my selection of what i want down to a sundown sa-12, sundown x series 12, or an american bass XFL1244, or an american bass 12 D1. I will be running which ever one i get off an Alpine MRX-M110 at 2 ohms. Does any one have some experience with these or just an opinion that might help me decide which one is better. I do not compete i just like to have loud bass you can feel

Update: I also should probably add that i will be using a prefab 1.7cu. ft. box tuned to 33hz

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[Massive spl]

Sundown X v2 hands down

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Out of those choices, yes. X-12.

SA 12 if you want to go cheaper

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

I've experience with all but the x the sa and xfl are pretty much the same with the xfl taking more power. The hd I've thrown 13k to 3 of them and did 154.7 on a burp all day long. Only real bad thing I've heard about the x was it didn't sound that good. But again I don't know personally

 

[Massive spl]

Sundown X,zv4,nsv3 are the smoothest sounding, less distortion woofers I've ever heard. It's all about the install... Because I've heard a few installs that svcked balls with X's and zv4s

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

I will be running which ever one i get off an Alpine MRX-M110 at 2 ohms.

The new X series along with the AB HD are 1500RMS (I don't know if I would spent 400 bucks on a sub and throw it on a low power amp in a prefab box).
I would do the XFL and save the money for future upgrades (aftermarket battery, maybe a custom box later down the road)

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

not another one of these threads //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[bullshit8421]

The new X series along with the AB HD are 1500RMS (I don't know if I would spent 400 bucks on a sub and throw it on a low power amp in a prefab box).
I would do the XFL and save the money for future upgrades (aftermarket battery, maybe a custom box later down the road)

I make a 2 hour drive weekly and like to play my music a full tilt the whole time can the XLF handle that because i blow the voice coil on a 12 in Type r at 500 watts from this.

 

[bullshit8421]

Is it not better to under power sub as long as you're not distorting the amp instead of over powering the sub?

The MRX-M100 at 2 ohms produces 1100 Watts RMS per the certification.

 

[tc300 10+ year member]

might as well scratch all these off your list if you plan on using a prefab!!!!!!

 

[tc300 10+ year member]

Sundown X v2 hands down

it is the "better" sub on the list but i am doubting the op knows how to properly use it....

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Just go to WalMart and buy a sub if you plan to use a ****** prefab box.

 

[macsdad 10+ year member]

No matter what 'they' say a prefab box is tuned at, you will be way, way better off with a custom built box, period. There are several here that can build you a proper box; cstang, and boomsday come immediately to mind. I just got one from boomsday and you would hard pressed to find better quality, impeccable attention to detail, and customer service. Check out my thread in the feedback section under transaction between macsdad and shauncox26, you will find pics of booms handywork.

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

I make a 2 hour drive weekly and like to play my music a full tilt the whole time can the XLF handle that because i blow the voice coil on a 12 in Type r at 500 watts from this.

There's people who run 1500 watts daily on an XFL and have no problem (its a stout subwoofer).
Clipping shouldn't be an issue if you set the gain/headunit right and keep an eye on your voltage via volt meter

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I make a 2 hour drive weekly and like to play my music a full tilt the whole time can the XLF handle that because i blow the voice coil on a 12 in Type r at 500 watts from this.

You most likely clipped it without knowing. You cant hear clipping. Its just a silent killer/heat build up in the coils and you never get a slight clue. Plus the type R's coil is pretty ******* weak compared to the real subs out there. Just because its rated the same RMS doesnt mean its even close to the same league as XFLs or sundowns

 

[mrpep]

My nephew is in a car club and his club is big on American bass. I can't say I've ever messed with them but they swear by them , the crazy thing is they didn't seem familiar with sundown at all and to be honest I had never heard of sundown till I met this forum.

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[UsAmpsFreak]

I make a 2 hour drive weekly and like to play my music a full tilt the whole time can the XLF handle that because i blow the voice coil on a 12 in Type r at 500 watts from this.

The power you were running isn't why you blew them. YOu blew them because you don't know the limits of your equipment. Don't clip the amp and you'll be fine.

 

[UsAmpsFreak]

Is it not better to under power sub as long as you're not distorting the amp instead of over powering the sub?The MRX-M100 at 2 ohms produces 1100 Watts RMS per the certification.

No, actually it's the opposite. It's better to have more power than the sub needs to give yourself some headroom rather than to have less power than it needs because you're much more likely to clip and distort the smaller amp. But obviously if you clip the bigger amp the same thing will happen.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Forcing the amp to make more power than it can actually make and overstressing the amp can easily distort the signal going to the subs. The reason why the type R blew is purely user error based not overpowering. Basically you expected more output than the amount of power you had could give and you overdrove the amp which distorted the signal it sends to the sub which causes the sub to build more heat and eventually die. If you had more power overhead with a bigger amp, you wouldnt need to drive the amp as hard and the signal would be clean. This is why most of us overpower our subs, we dont need to push it to the max and stress the amp while ensuring we get maximal output and our subs stay cool and do not blow. A clean signal generates way less heat than a clipped signal.

 

[UsAmpsFreak]

Yea! What ^^^^^^ said.....