subs that people will hear

[mr.cableboi 10+ year member]

man i want to know where all these laws are. Never hear about them out here.

 

[cmp69 10+ year member]

if u want an opinion of loud..i was in my friends accord, and he had 4 10 inch jk audio w3, i foget wut amps he had..but he had 2 amps that, each amp was pushing 250 watts rms, and and each amp went to 2 subs..and im telling u...i could hear his **** for about 100 feets away..i was loud and inside its insane...hey got his trunk dynamatted so the rattle would go away and his subs are crazy....thats loud enough for me

 

[zane 10+ year member]

Originally posted by mr.cableboi man i want to know where all these laws are. Never hear about them out here.

Just takes a little reading- here are some from Your Own State:

CALIFORNIA CODES

VEHICLE CODE SECTION 27000-27007

27007. No driver of a vehicle shall operate, or permit the operation of, any sound amplification system which can be heard outside the vehicle from 50 or more feet when the vehicle is being operated upon a highway, unless that system is being operated to request assistance or warn of a hazardous situation.

This section does not apply to authorized emergency vehicles or vehicles operated by gas, electric, communications, or water utilities. This section does not apply to the sound systems of vehicles used for advertising, or in parades, political or other special events, except that the use of sound systems on those vehicles may be prohibited by a local authority by ordinance or resolution.

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California Noise Control Act

California Health and Safety Code

Sections 46000 - 46080

(Current as of Sept. 20, 2001)

46000. The Legislature hereby finds and declares that:

(a) Excessive noise is a serious hazard to the public health and

welfare.

(b) Exposure to certain levels of noise can result in

physiological, psychological, and economic damage.

© There is a continuous and increasing bombardment of noise in

the urban, suburban, and rural areas.

(d) Government has not taken the steps necessary to provide for

the control, abatement, and prevention of unwanted and hazardous

noise.

(e) The State of California has a responsibility to protect the

health and welfare of its citizens by the control, prevention, and

abatement of noise.

(f) All Californians are entitled to a peaceful and quiet

environment without the intrusion of noise which may be hazardous to

their health or welfare.

(g) It is the policy of the state to provide an environment for

all Californians free from noise that jeopardizes their health or

welfare. To that end it is the purpose of this division to establish

a means for effective coordination of state activities in noise

control and to take such action as will be necessary to achieve the

purposes of this section.

46001. No provision of this division or ruling of the Office of

Noise Control is a limitation or expansion:

(a) On the power of a city, county, or city and county to adopt

and enforce additional regulations, not in conflict therewith,

imposing further conditions, restrictions, or limitations.

(b) On the power of any city, county, or city and county to

declare, prohibit, and abate nuisances.

© On the power of the Attorney General, at the request of the

office, the state department, or upon his own motion to bring an

action in the name of the people of the State of California to enjoin

any pollution or nuisance or to protect the natural resources of the

state.

(d) On the power of a state agency in the enforcement or

administration of any provision of law which it is specifically

permitted or required to enforce or administer.

(e) On the right of any person to maintain at any time any

appropriate action for relief against any private nuisance as defined

in the Civil Code or for relief against any noise pollution.

46002. Nothing in this division shall be construed as giving the

Office of Noise Control authority or responsibility for adopting or

enforcing noise-emission standards for any product for which a

regulation has been, or could be, prescribed or promulgated by the

Environmental Protection Agency under the Noise Control Act of 1972.

46010. This division shall be known and may be cited as the

California Noise Control Act of 1973.

46020. Unless the context otherwise requires, the definitions set

forth in this chapter govern the construction of the words used in

this division.

46021. "Local agency" means and includes every local agency,

including a county, city, whether general law or chartered, city and

county, school district, municipal corporation, district, political

subdivision, or any board, commission or agency thereof, or other

local public agency.

46022. "Noise" means and includes excessive undesirable sound,

including that produced by persons, pets and livestock, industrial

equipment, construction, motor vehicles, boats, aircraft, home

appliances, electric motors, combustion engines, and any other

noise-producing objects.

46023. "Office" means the Office of Noise Control.

46024. "Public agency" means and includes every state agency and

every local agency.

46025. "State agency" means and includes every state office,

officer, department, division, bureau, board, council, commission, or

other state agency.

46040. There is within the state department an Office of Noise

Control.

46050. The office shall, in order to protect health and well-being

establish and maintain a program on noise control, including but not

limited to:

(a) Determining the psychological and physical health effects of

noise.

(b) Determining the physiological effects of noise upon plant and

animal life.

© Monitoring noise.

(d) Collecting and disseminating authoritative information on

adverse effects of noise and of means for its control.

(e) Developing, in cooperation with local governments, model

ordinances for urban, suburban, and rural environments.

(f) Providing assistance to local governmental entities engaged in

developing and implementing noise abatement procedures.

(g) Developing criteria and guidelines for use in setting

standards for human exposure to noise.

(h) Developing standards for the use of noise-producing objects in

California.

(i) Developing criteria for submission to the Legislature so that

state agencies may require noise control in equipment purchased for

state use.

46050.1. Notwithstanding Section 65040.2 of the Government Code,

the office shall adopt, in coordination with the Office of Planning

and Research and each state department and agency as it deems

appropriate, guidelines for the preparation and content of noise

elements as required by Section 65302 of the Government Code.

In adding Section 39850.1 to the Health and Safety Code, which was

the predecessor to this section, and amending Section 65302 of the

Government Code by Chapter 1124 of the Statutes of 1975, it was the

intent of the Legislature to ensure, insofar as possible, that new

and periodically revised noise elements in local governments' general

plans be more standardized, comprehensive, and utilitarian than they

had been previously.

However, the Legislature also recognized that some cities and

counties had already adopted noise elements pursuant to the existing

Section 65302 of the Government Code and that others had received

extensions on the due date of their noise element until September 20,

1975. Those cities and counties were not required to resubmit new

noise elements consistent with Section 65302 of the Government Code,

or to recognize guidelines adopted pursuant to this section, but are

required, upon initial and periodic revision of the noise element, to

comply with Section 65302 of the Government Code and to recognize

those guidelines.

The requirement that the office adopt guidelines for the

preparation and content of noise elements shall be inoperative during

the 1993-94 fiscal year.

46060. It is the purpose of this chapter to encourage the enactment

and enforcement of local ordinances in those areas which are most

properly the responsibility of local government. It is further the

purpose to insure that the state is of maximum assistance to local

agencies in the discharge of those responsibilities, furnishing

technical and legal expertise to assist local agencies in the

enactment and enforcement of meaningful and technically sufficient

noise abatement measures.

46061. The office shall provide technical assistance to local

agencies in combating noise pollution. Such assistance shall include

but not be limited to:

(a) Advice concerning methods of noise abatement and control.

(b) Advice on training of noise control personnel.

© Advice on selection and operation of noise abatement

equipment.

46062. The office shall provide assistance to local agencies in the

preparation of model ordinances to control and abate noise. Such

ordinances shall be developed in consultation with the Attorney

General and with representatives of local agencies, including the

County Supervisors Association of California and the League of

California Cities. Any local agency which adopts any noise control

ordinance shall promptly furnish a copy to the office.

46070. The director shall promote coordination of the programs of

all state agencies relating to noise research, abatement, prevention,

and control. Each state agency shall, upon request, furnish to the

director such information as he may reasonably require to determine

the nature, scope, and results of the noise research and noise

control programs of the agency.

46071. On the basis of regular consultation with appropriate state

agencies, the director shall compile and publish, from time to time,

a report on the status and progress of state activities relating to

noise research and noise control. This report shall describe the

noise programs of each state agency and assess the contributions of

those programs to the state's overall efforts to control noise.

continued below:

 

[zane 10+ year member]

Continuing:

46072. In any case where any state agency is carrying out or

sponsoring any activity resulting in noise which the director

determines amounts to a public nuisance or is otherwise

objectionable, such agency shall consult with the director to

determine possible means of abating such noise. This section does

not apply to any action of a private person for which a license,

permit, or other entitlement for use is required to be issued by a

state agency.

46073. The Legislature authorizes and directs that all state

agencies shall, to the fullest extent consistent with existing

authority, administer the programs within their control in such a

manner as to further the policy declared in Section 46000. This

section shall not be construed to limit or expand the authority of

any state agency to issue or deny a license, permit, or other

entitlement for use.

46074. Each state agency authorized to adopt regulations in the

area of noise control shall in the manner specified in subdivision

© of Section 11423 of the Government Code give notice to and invite

the comments of the office concerning any proposed adoption,

amendment, or repeal of a regulation in the area of noise control.

46075. In accordance with the provisions of Section 11426 of the

Government Code or other applicable law, the office may petition any

public agency for the adoption of regulations or other measures

otherwise within the authority of that public agency in the area of

noise control.

46076. The Office of Noise Control shall maintain a program to

insure that all state agencies are advised of available federal

assistance and funds for noise control programs. The office may, at

the request of individual agencies, act for them for the following

purposes:

(a) Applying for federal funds which may be made available to the

states for noise control programs or related research as a result of

the Noise Control Act of 1972 (P.L. 92-574) or any other federal

program or law.

(b) Receiving technical assistance from the Environmental

Protection Agency to facilitate the development and enforcement of

state noise standards and model noise legislation.

46077. The office shall maintain a program to ensure coordinated

state and federal noise control programs including, but not limited

to, the following:

(a) The study of federal noise regulations proposed for adoption

pursuant to the Noise Control Act of 1972.

(b) The preparation of comments, evaluations, objections or the

use of any other means to ensure that the federal government

considers existing California noise control statutes and regulations

prior to the adoption of regulations in order to prevent the adoption

of federal noise regulation weaker than existing state standards.

© The preparation of reports to the Legislature containing

recommendations for legislation necessitated by the adoption of

federal noise regulations pursuant to the Noise Control Act of 1972.

46080. In furtherance of his responsibilities under this division

and to complement, as necessary, the noise research programs of

federal agencies and of other state agencies, the director is

authorized to:

(a) Conduct research, and finance research by contract with other

public and private bodies, on the effects, measurement, and control

of noise, including but not limited to:

(1) Investigation of the psychological and physiological effects

of noise on humans and the effects of noise on domestic animals,

wildlife, and property, and determination of acceptable levels of

noise on the basis of such effects.

(2) Development of improved methods and standards for measurement

and monitoring of noise.

(3) Determination of the most effective and practicable means of

controlling noise generation, transmission, and reception.

(b) Coordinate with and become knowledgeable concerning the noise

research programs of other governmental entities including the

federal government.

© Disseminate to the public information on the effects of noise,

acceptable noise levels, and techniques for noise measurement and

control.

And some sites about noise ordinances in CA.

http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/losangel.htm

http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/malibu.htm

http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/sacramen.htm

http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/sanjose.htm

http://www.nonoise.org/lawlib/cities/sandiego.htm

Pay attention to this one in particular- This is the type of thing that happens when people abuse noise ordiances:

http://www.nonoise.org/news/ord.htm

http://www.ired.com/news/lieberman/010729.htm

http://www.netvista.net/~hpb/calnca.html

http://www.noisefree.org/index.html

Now you have heard of these laws, and the above is only a small start.

take it easy,

-zane

 

[mr.cableboi 10+ year member]

well i guess that a lie cause everybody out here has something in the trunk, most play it loud. I mean right in front of cops they dont say nothing. But like i said on the other post cops out here have alot more to worry about then bustin some punk for playing music loud. lol and most of the people complain about people speeding down the street or hittin dougnut in the intersection...yea they trying to stop that out here now..but dont seem like they are having any luck with stoping the sideshows.

 

[phoneman 10+ year member]

Ok I am 22 and have been reading and been posting theads unregistered for a while but this has got to be the wourst. Why be disrespectful and P I S S people off with loud music ( i was guilty off this in high school ) . There is a time and a place and its not just where you feel like it , it is where it does not bother other poeple... how would you feel if some very big church group ( not disrespecting any religions ) were in your street preaching over a very loud P A system and you could not do anything about it , would that piss you off. Or if there was a 4 hour polka parade starting at 2:00 am in the morning during the week , would this piss you off....

Dont get me wrong I do like loud, clean music.

 

[zane 10+ year member]

Not lies- laws, big difference. The codes by number are there for you to reference as well as the links. If this is not sufficient, contact your states attourney general, as they will confirm the above.

I would agree, police do have better things to worry about than a loud stereo, however, when complaints are filed for noise violation, the police have the same duty at hand- to uphold the law. Weather it is speeding, playing loud music, drug dealing, arson, rape, murder, public intoxication, etc etc etc- name your poison- the law is the law, and the police are required by thier job description and civil duty to uphold it.

take it easy,

-zane

 

[zane 10+ year member]

Originally posted by phoneman Or if there was a 4 hour polka parade starting at 2:00 am in the morning during the week , would this piss you off....

I think a 4 hour polka parade at any hour would be enough to anger anyone....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

good point though!

take it easy,

-zane

 

[Nolesman 10+ year member]

MMATS Juggernaut is probably one of the deepest booms I have ever heard. Just do me one favor.... if boom is all you are looking for, dont drive around my neighborhood after 2am or anytime before noon on Saturdays.

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

Hey Phatillusion thats funny **** man,I just think it was the mans stupidity that he thought he could be a smartass and teach you guys a lesson.As far as your accident that can happen anytime to anyone so.

It's funny huh, I wasn't wearing a seat belt, the car impacted mine at over 60 mph, and I had nothing more than a scratch on my knee. My car did a 1080 in the middle of a busy road ( that would be 3- 360's). I pretty much blacked out during the whole episode, the only thing I remember is seeing something out of the corner of my eye. But I did look both ways twice, so I am convinced something or someone was trying to teach me a lesson. By the way to add to that, the lady in the car that hit mine, didn't even have a scratch on her, both cars were obviously totaled. Funny thing is, my system was still going after the wreck, I had to pull the fuse to shut it off.

Just boom responsibly, that's all I can ask, treat people how you want to be treated.

 

[mr.cableboi 10+ year member]

well i understand both sides but like i said people are always going to roll down the street playing music....sure you can give them a ticket doesnt mean its going to stop. There are alot of people in the world that do it so give one person a ticket he may stop but you still have millions more that will do it.

 

[MR_LOWRIDER 10+ year member]

Hey Phatillusion accidents are not funny but braking somebodies arm that doesn't belong in your car would be funny.Anyways people say there is a time and place for car audio,The time is in your car and the place is where you drive or park your car.Everyone has there own opinions on this matter and thats the way it goes.I'm not saying its right or its wrong to do a crime.

 

[jester73440 10+ year member]

Hey i just noticed something mr lowrider if you wanna break things in peoples houses with your system and make having a system harder on everyone go for it you live in canada it won't effect our laws but when you do get caught blasting your system down a street in canada you will learn i am sure they will be more strict then any one here

 

[Unregistered]

If you want the best subs and amps for the money I would probably go with crossfire BMF. The 12's are absolutely outstanding and the amps are just as good. I have a mitsubishi montero and just put my stuff in about 2 weeks ago. If you want loud there it is. Although everyone has an opinion you have to get what you want. Here is my setup

2002 Montero sport LTD

Eclipse 5441 Head

5 1/4 Focal polykevlar components

6" focal coaxs

1 Crossfire TEK 75.4 amp for highs

4 crossfire BMF subs

2 Crossfire BMF 1000D amps for subs

4.0 cu ft quad chambered ported box

4 RF 1 Farad caps

Just to give you and idea of what it can do, a friend has 6 JLw6 in a six chamber box. Pushing 2400watts in an Explorer and mine hit harder, by alot. Good Luck and try to talk you dad into buying some or all off the internet so you can get alot more.

 

[m83x 10+ year member]

how bout putting it this way.. crank their stereos up..but suffer the consequences if they get booked...if they get booked, lucky the neighbors(the ones who doesnt like loud music) if they dont get booked, lucky the one who's playing.. hehehehe.... its really up to the driver(the one playing loud music)if whether their gonna turn up or not... no one can control them when they're hit the streets (exept the cops of course)

just my opinion