Single capable amp needed to push 2 12" bone crushers.

[shredder1 10+ year member]

I Dnt know what your talking Abt here buddy
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Those subs need to be computer modeled... that's what the parameters are for... then the box can be built to the proper specs... find the complete parameters and post them... that box I posted IS a stab in the dark... OK?

 

[Wellyboy]

Those subs need to be computer modeled... that's what the parameters are for... then the box can be built to the proper specs... find the complete parameters and post them... that box I posted IS a stab in the dark... OK?

What program are you using at the moment?
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[shredder1 10+ year member]

I'm not using any computer modeling program... That is Torres box calculator... and it by itself is not entirely accurate... you should listen to EVERYONE man we need PARAMETERS to do this right... as of NOW I'm leaving this to someone else... I'll watch the thread as it develops I guess... Good luck...

You can lead a horse to water...

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

Can you link a spec sheet to your subwoofers? People want the specifics about your subwoofer. Look for terms like BL QES QTC etc...

BTW good choice on the fosgate. I love the BDCP amps. They are pretty flexible and put out good power.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I Dnt know what your talking Abt here buddy
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you are jumping straight into the box build without any projected results or graphs from the sub's electromechanical paramters aka you are just blinding throwing numbers out there without knowing how the sub sounds like. The whole thread everyone has been saying this but its not sinking in to you.

Straight up you should just stop and have someone design your box for you period.

just link your sub model number or whatever spec sheet the manufacturer gives out that has QES, QMS, QTS VAS, FS, MMS, Xmax etc... the sheet you showed only gave half @ssed information thats missing QES and QMS so you wont get anything done without those numbers.

List your ABSOLUTE max dimensions we'll see whats the best design for your car.

That way we can end this shit show and everyone's happy.

You havent even told us what vehicle this is going in either. that also has an impact on box design.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Well..this certainly escalated a lot.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

Well..this certainly escalated a lot.

You should read the WHOLE thread... this is crazy... he does not read well or something... I'm at a loss...

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

You should read the WHOLE thread... this is crazy... he does not read well or something... I'm at a loss...

Oh I have. A little at a time, was at work over the weekend. Building an enclosure for those "bone crushers" is a waste of time imo. I didn't see or come across a question for the OP tho in regards to his Alpine sub vs. the "bone crusher". What was the difference between the 2 that made him decide the BC subs sounded "better"? I'm willing to bet whatever enclsoure the shop had those subs in, made his decision. A proper desinged enclosure is just as important as tuning it too.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

Oh I have. A little at a time, was at work over the weekend. Building an enclosure for those "bone crushers" is a waste of time imo. I didn't see or come across a question for the OP tho in regards to his Alpine sub vs. the "bone crusher". What was the difference between the 2 that made him decide the BC subs sounded "better"? I'm willing to bet whatever enclsoure the shop had those subs in, made his decision. A proper desinged enclosure is just as important as tuning it too.

I just can't beg for PARAMETERS any more... LOL!

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

I just can't beg for PARAMETERS any more... LOL!

Yeah I saw. Then he's on his own at this point. There's nothing secretive about it. If he can't/refuses driver parameters to help him model up a good design, what's he doing here then?

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

Yeah I saw. Then he's on his own at this point. There's nothing secretive about it. If he can't/refuses driver parameters to help him model up a good design, what's he doing here then?

Someone will help him... probably... IDK

 

[Wellyboy]

you are jumping straight into the box build without any projected results or graphs from the sub's electromechanical paramters aka you are just blinding throwing numbers out there without knowing how the sub sounds like. The whole thread everyone has been saying this but its not sinking in to you.

Straight up you should just stop and have someone design your box for you period.

just link your sub model number or whatever spec sheet the manufacturer gives out that has QES, QMS, QTS VAS, FS, MMS, Xmax etc... the sheet you showed only gave half @ssed information thats missing QES and QMS so you wont get anything done without those numbers.

List your ABSOLUTE max dimensions we'll see whats the best design for your car.

That way we can end this shit show and everyone's happy.

You havent even told us what vehicle this is going in either. that also has an impact on box design.

Kia PRO ceed Gt. I'm at work right now but during luck I jumped on my laptop an played around a little bit... Tonight Ill work on the 3d diagram configuration to see what it's gona look like but these are my numbers so far. (please note I'm not finished I plan to work on it untill the weekend) I Dnt have time to consult professionals my work hours Dnt allow much room for play during the day an I'm on no rush as I'v said b4.
Specs are.

37.7cm L x 36.4cm H x 40cm D or imperial

14.84in L x 14.33in H x 15.74in D

These numbers don't include the port I'v done the port calculations seperatly an these are the number I'v come up with.

Vebt Area.

173cm L x 30cm H x 15cm D or imperial 68.11in L x 11.8in H x 6in D

An according to a few algebra equations aswell as several frequency equations and also ISD my frequency should be Abt 35-40 I'm not gona give the exact projected frequency because I need to go over this few more times an double an triple check with the right ppl.

Oh an lastly. These dimension are for a single box... I'v decided to make 2 single joinable boxes to accommodate for space when need (remove 1 sub now an the)

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[Wellyboy]

Oh I have. A little at a time, was at work over the weekend. Building an enclosure for those "bone crushers" is a waste of time imo. I didn't see or come across a question for the OP tho in regards to his Alpine sub vs. the "bone crusher". What was the difference between the 2 that made him decide the BC subs sounded "better"? I'm willing to bet whatever enclsoure the shop had those subs in, made his decision. A proper desinged enclosure is just as important as tuning it too.

Absolutely wrong... They took the alpine type out it's box (the original box designed for alpine) an put the bone crusher in there an gave it the same beating an didn't blow (the alpine blew) then they took both subs apart to compare the coil. Well the alpine was roasted to a crisp the BC was boiling but the coil had no scorch marks on it an I was kinda impressed. But know that obviously I haven't had much exposure to different sub types an outputs... Music can't be played to loud here in Australia because fines are handed out for disturbing the peace.
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[Wellyboy]

Yeah I saw. Then he's on his own at this point. There's nothing secretive about it. If he can't/refuses driver parameters to help him model up a good design, what's he doing here then?

I'v only got access to certain perameters there are a few I cannot find online. The sub isn't well known here not many know Abt it not many use find them all is gona be a huge nearly impossible mission.
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[Wellyboy]

you are jumping straight into the box build without any projected results or graphs from the sub's electromechanical paramters aka you are just blinding throwing numbers out there without knowing how the sub sounds like. The whole thread everyone has been saying this but its not sinking in to you.

Straight up you should just stop and have someone design your box for you period.

just link your sub model number or whatever spec sheet the manufacturer gives out that has QES, QMS, QTS VAS, FS, MMS, Xmax etc... the sheet you showed only gave half @ssed information thats missing QES and QMS so you wont get anything done without those numbers.

List your ABSOLUTE max dimensions we'll see whats the best design for your car.

That way we can end this shit show and everyone's happy.

You havent even told us what vehicle this is going in either. that also has an impact on box design.

Mate.... There was no sheet in the box... I know what mean.. So I will directly email the manufacturer for these details right now.
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