Pioneer 7800 (Premier 780) vs Premier 880

Thanks a lot guy! especially those who could compare both devices.

Does anybody can tell how effective auto AT and EQ are? How often do you use these options (or just once?)

Owners of 780, are you happy with its display? Isn't it blind in daylight?

 
Thanks a lot guy! especially those who could compare both devices.Does anybody can tell how effective auto AT and EQ are? How often do you use these options (or just once?)

Owners of 780, are you happy with its display? Isn't it blind in daylight?
Go to your local best buy, or audio shop and check one out.

 
The problem is that I'm from Belarus and we here dont 780 at all.

Only 880 that is Pioneer 88 there.

I saw 88 - very nice but it's impossible for me to test 780.

 
Regarding the screen, I use the standard background of gradually cascading colors with the song title and artist displayed. The screen is clear in virtually all circumstances but if it is really bright you may have some problems. But I would suspect the 880 is no different. Overall the screen is really bright and clear although some may not like all the blue around the rotary knob. BTW I did a review of this deck which is posted on the product review forum.

 
Well, my choice is 880!

Anyway 780 is a great model. But I've chosen the design of 880.

Thanks everybody for help!

 
I'm new here, so excuse my ignorance with this question...

Pioneer's site lists the crossovers of the 880 and the 780 as exactly the same: 3 way, same HPF and LPF frequencies and slopes. I was under the impression that running your crossovers from the deck was 'going active'. Am I wrong in that?

From Pioneer's website, the only differences I can tell are that the 880 has Auto EQ and Auto Time Alignment. Both of which, by the way, the p980BT is listed as having. So if you want a color screen, but the control of the p880prs, it kinda seems like the p980bt would do that.

Oh, and the p880prs has the dual L/R 16 band EQ, while the 780 and 980 just have a 16 band EQ.

 
Pioneers website is wrong. Only the 880 does active 3way. The 780 and 980 has crossovers for front, rear and sub, might be what pioneer was meaning. They dont do bandpass for mids like the 880. I think pioneer was going for a clean looking SQ deck when they came out with the 880. I have had both the 860 and 880. I prefer the 880 for the clean look. But my decks are all like that, Alpine 9835, eclipse 8053, 8454, clarion DRZ9255, Nakamichi decks.

 
So basically on the 780/980 you can only set an HPF for the mids, but on the 880 you can set an HPF and an LPF?

If you can set a crossover on the fly for high, mid and sub, why isn't that an active 3 way?

 
The 880 will set LPF for the sub , LPF and HPF for the mids. and HPF for the tweeters. The 780 and 980 will set LPF for the sub and HPF individually for front and rear speakers. Also the HPF settings are alot lower then the 880. The 880 has about 1.2k setting for the highs where the 780, 980 only go to 200hz. cant run tweeters with 780, 980 decks

 
Ah, I think I get it now. I am still running my passive crossover in the door to send the appropriate signals to the mid and the tweeter, but I am using the HPF on my deck (Kenwood dpx-701) to cut out the sub-bass frequencies for the front speakers. This seems like what you could do with the 780/980.

The 880, on the other hand, will distinguish between the tweeter and the mid for crossover control, and offer you HPF AND LPF for the mid. If you were going to take advantage of this, I assume you would need 4 channels, one for each speaker up front?

 
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