Out with the old, in with the new.

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

i deal with 70lb subs alot. but not for personal use. course once i wall the blackura ill be doing some lvl 6's.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

LV 6's are knuckle busters to mount.

 

[CerwinVega_Fan 10+ year member]

SELL SELL SELL!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

some of my fav subs in the world.. love neo.

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

very nice!

ya better black out the windows or u will have no subs, safe than sorry bro!

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

peeps dont understand how strong those motors are. i would like one to put a real top plate on because that top plate is flooded with 1/4 of that neo, if not less...

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

peeps dont understand how strong those motors are. i would like one to put a real top plate on because that top plate is flooded with 1/4 of that neo, if not less...

about got two way back from h&k audio or whatever his name was, then he ended up becoming a scammer and I didn't get any.. lol. Would like to have had them though.

 

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peeps dont understand how strong those motors are. i would like one to put a real top plate on because that top plate is flooded with 1/4 of that neo, if not less...

about got two way back from h&k audio or whatever his name was, then he ended up becoming a scammer and I didn't get any.. lol. Would like to have had them though.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

very nice!
ya better black out the windows or u will have no subs, safe than sorry bro!

Don't live in ghetto, have dogs and various other forms of crime prevention.

peeps dont understand how strong those motors are. i would like one to put a real top plate on because that top plate is flooded with 1/4 of that neo, if not less...

Super saturated for sure. Supposedly you do notice the difference when you get into really absurd power levels..... generally you gain close to a dB over the ceramic motors with these, also gain a lot of relief on lower back from wrestling ceramics.

I have heard others say that that motor would work with just one of those slugs. Shocker Mike is into the OMFG overkill school of design. His new amp sounds like a monstrosity.

Mike had priced having a new neo motor made (bigger of course) and price of neo made it pretty stupid. Would have a hard time selling them at cost I think.

SELL SELL SELL!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

No time soon I think, unless local so I have a chance to get it back eventually. More interested in getting more actually.

 

[Sub Bass Woofrz 10+ year member]

can someone give me the rundown of what exactly these are and what neo means? Ive heard of shocker sigs is it a brand or custom built sub or what?

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

didnt say ya live in getto bro but there is crime everywhere, ya go places like parking lots to shop and such.

actually one of the biggest bennyz with the neo vrs the 10.5" motor is air flow restriction with the motor.

yea neo has gotte stupid expencive and why soo many companys have stopped useing or back out of future designs with it...

 

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

The motors are 5X stronger than ceramic sigs, and trust me, if you re-build as often as I do, you get really sick of wrestling 85 pound subs.

so the advantage of neo motors is. More strength at less weight?

 

[121jiggawatts]

Yea neo is currently the strongest magnetic substance per weight. Its also a natural substance which is why its getting expensive. I think hispls posted an article about how the euros were using it in windmills and using a lot of it, and that was why it was going up in price so much, so fast. I think i read an article somewhere saying china was set to stop exporting neo by the end of 2012.

You guys are gonna have to start working out to get ready to lift those 300 lb motor structures cause it looks like ferrite is here to stay.

 

[RangerDangerV2 5,000+ posts]

you JOOOOOOO. that is a lot of neo....

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

can someone give me the rundown of what exactly these are and what neo means? Ive heard of shocker sigs is it a brand or custom built sub or what?

Shocker is a brand. Subs were made by TC sounds. Shocker Extreme was TC7, Super extreme was TC9, Signature series (sig) was it's own animal, but a stupid big ceramic motor. Neo = Neodymium, it's a rare earth metal that's really expensive but makes an incredibly powerful fixed magnet. Lots of mids and tweeters use it still since it saves space and mass. A few subs have used it, but it gets really pricy because it's scarce, China has a monopoly on raw materials, it's hard to work with from manufacturing standpoint, and demand is through the roof since it's used in windmills (and I'd assume some other forms of generators).

Most of the Shocker subs you'll find are custom made since most people who used them were doing over-the-top DB drag applications where pushing things till they break is the norm.

didnt say ya live in getto bro but there is crime everywhere, ya go places like parking lots to shop and such.
actually one of the biggest bennyz with the neo vrs the 10.5" motor is air flow restriction with the motor.

yea neo has gotte stupid expencive and why soo many companys have stopped useing or back out of future designs with it...

In truth, I do worry more with the neo ones in there since they could sort of be lifted easily. Any box I have loaded with ceramic sigs isn't walking off without a tow truck.... still though, I've been in this hobby since late 80's and only been broke into once (long story, nothing in the car, they thought it was my brother's).

so the advantage of neo motors is. More strength at less weight?

Yes. Huge savings in weight and they gain about a dB over the ceramic sigs. Apparently gains are more dramatic at really extreme output, where guys who were doing 170's with ceramic sigs still gained .7 to 1.0 dB from switching to these motors. That's a huge gain at that level for just switching subs.

 

[RangerDangerV2 5,000+ posts]

what are you pulling for a bl number??

 

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

well that is really cool. Those are some really awesome looking subs you have there. If it was me. I definitely wouldn't sell them.

Anything that's lighter weight yet gains strength is always good.

I am very jealous of what you have here!