Opinion:: Random Drug/Alcohol Testing at work /poll\

[jimmclrk1 10+ year member]

Drug tests do NOT let employers know when someone is high, it allows them to see when/if a substance is in their system. I could have smoked a month ago and still test positive.
How bout you mind your fcking business and not worry about what i do? Like, maybe we should actually ACT like we have a free country? I mean, that is what this country was based on....crazy idea.....

Im also going to bring up one more time how other chemicals can make you test a false positve. So how exactly is it fair?

Just get a job where they don't care. We do live in a free country, that's why you can be drug tested, and that's why your employer can decide that he or she doesn't want you working for them. I guess it's hard for broke *** people to imagine what it would be like to be giving people money to do work they don't want to do. That must be why it is so hard for you to envision why employers want the most productive members of society on their staff.

 

[SethPhillips 5,000+ posts]

no its a violation of the first amendment. Why should it matter what a productive employee does in their spare time. If the employee isnt productive due to drugs, then why is he working there?

Why should they be allowed to randomly take fluids from me? They are mine. Its an illegal search and seizure. Noone should have the right to do that. Ever

x2 on those to good points...

i belive if i have to take a drug test to recive a paycheck... then i belive that people out there on walfare should have to pass a drug test in order to recive there walefare check.. since it's comeing out of mine and ur's pockets...

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

Like I said, it does more good for a company than harm. If he need the job to support his family that bad, then he should have had the will not to smoke the doobie. The policy was in place, he knew about and went against it. Not hard to understand really.

Yes, everything is in place to protect the company. Im still failing to see how this is used as a good way of "weeding" the bad people out. If someone isnt doing their job, they get canned, you dont need a piss test to fire someone. You tell them to pack their shit and go.

 

[jimmclrk1 10+ year member]

No shit Sherlock. That was my point.

I hadn't read the rest of your posts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[CarsThatGoBoom 10+ year member]

i just got a job at discount tire and they drug tested me and did a backround check and stuff and i passed my drug test i`m only 17 so... will discount tire test me again???

 

[Grim 10+ year member]

X2
Also, many other chemicals can cause a false positve on a drug test (poppy seeds for example) So unless the method is 100% i dont see how they can fire someone and ruin their lives for that reason. Especially if the person does their work in a favorable, timely manner.

I wouldnt worry to much about the False Positives...For example, youd have to eat ALOT, and I mean ALOT of poppy seeds for it to show up. On top of that they take things like that into consideration.

I have Zero Problem with them Drug Testing.

Those of you crying that it violates our rights blah ****ing blah....get real...When you began employment with them, wether or not you realized it, you gave them the right to drug test one way or another. If you by any chance didnt sign something, then they will ask before they drug test you. However most companies do it when you sign on. Have a problem with it then dont work for them.

Heres an even better idea, dont do drugs. I care about my job, so i stay clean, its not hard...

When your in my line of work, you might understand a little better why you dont want some stoned working with you....

BMXbikes.....get real....

Also, theres a few ways to do this.

When you are hired on

Randomly During Employment (Either Certain Groups or computer selected)

During certain times of the month, year, whatever

When you are acting funny(Poor Job performance, Sleepy, Out of it)

If you cause an accident or somesort...

Some jobs, i really dont think it matters if your ****ed up, but its the companies choice...If you get ****ed up and work with me, you can bet your sweet *** your prolly going to have a drug test within a day or so....Call me a snitch, but when it comes to my life, id rather see you get fired then me fried...yes thats spelled right.

Also....Alcohol isnt illegal...so those of us who go to the bars.....well what are we doing wrong? Wether we like it or not...DRUGS THAT THEY TEST FOR ARENT LEGAL....Its not up for argument...

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

lol.
but on to the serious part. thats cool if you dont want to smoke bro, im not saying you have to or anything of the sort. im just saying that i think the law is bullshit really.

if there was a way to test on the spot at work as in, there being a 8 hr window or so (like a regular work day) and the metabolites only being able to be picked up in that window, then id be all for random drug tests. this would somewhat insure that you are not high off your drug of choice on the job. but when you smoked 2 weeks ago, and get popped on a test, i mean wtf? are those metabolites really affecting your performance?

but what you do at home? thats just far. just my .02c

Doesn't happen on weed, but what about a person drinkin their *** off at home and comin into work with a hangover and slackin off. Technically they did it on their own time, but its still impacting work.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

Depends on what area of the workforce your in. I would bet the majority of failed drug tests in labor jobs (construction, oil field, etc) are tweak note weed.
Another angle of the employer is "if the employee is willing to partake in illegal activity off hours, what will he do on the clock?"

i will agree to that. however i still believe the main concern of the companies is to catch the pot smokers.

you know what i find funny? i saw a Stanley Steamer commercial that PROUDLY said, "we drug test our employees!"...and i thought to my self...."FOR GOD SAKES YOU NEED TO PASS A DRUG TEST TO CLEAN CARPETS FOR A LIVING?!?!"

 

[Grim 10+ year member]

i just got a job at discount tire and they drug tested me and did a backround check and stuff and i passed my drug test i`m only 17 so... will discount tire test me again???

Read the policy, does it say you may be tested at any time? We are not the ones that can answer that for you..Are you worried?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

x2 on those to good points...
i belive if i have to take a drug test to recive a paycheck... then i belive that people out there on walfare should have to pass a drug test in order to recive there walefare check.. since it's comeing out of mine and ur's pockets...

Quoting what will be the best statement of this entire thread!!!

 

[jimmclrk1 10+ year member]

Doesn't happen on weed, but what about a person drinkin their *** off at home and comin into work with a hangover and slackin off. Technically they did it on their own time, but its still impacting work.

The person will be fired for slacking off....

Most companies have policies strictly forbiding use of illicit substances inside or outside of work. If you don't agree with that, choose not to work for that company.