Opinion:: Random Drug/Alcohol Testing at work /poll\

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Would I want a baby sitter on meth? How often are baby sitters drug tested? This is about actual employement in a company not finding some crack ***** off the street to watch your kids. And if you suspect someone of using meth and let them watch your children you deserve what ever happens. And if I was completely qualified for a job, best worker there, but every once in a while I smoked marijuana, is it fair I get fired? I mean its MY FREE time. Im not doing it at work. Its not effecting my work ethic. Why should it make me either have to get fired or quit for doing something that does not effect my productiveness.

They can't say oh well Johnny is a good worker so we will let him go, while shitcanning bob who sux ***. It has to be across the board. It has been shown numerous times that they will hit more positive results by getting rid of drug users. Are some good workers lost? yes of course. I had to let a few good guys go before. However you get more riff raff out on this hook. With the tests and policy in place, unemployment doesnt have to be paid either so its a win/win fopr a company.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

I'm willing to sell my pee. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

what are quarters?

Quarterly is every 1/4 of a year which = 3 mos.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

It isn't the violation of the first amendment. It is a "privately" owned establishment and the owner/management can run it how they see fit. Don't like it? Go elsewhere. Since it isn't government mandated that companies do a drug screen, I see no harm or foul if a company wishes to do so. They are minimizing there chance of getting that person who lets drugs override their lives and lets it affect work.
Bottom line to me is that companies should be free to run the companies the way they see fit, within reason. I hardly find drug screening to be in the confines of unreasonable.

i agree to a point.

yes its a privately owned establishment, however, does that mean they should be allowed to do what they please? how about not hire anyone with kids? they can keep the parents away from work too. or maybe, not hire someone who has OCD? they wont be able to do the work in a timely manner. what about the one with torrettes? yes im stretching it, but im trying to prove a point. how is forcing me to take my piss, hair samples, saliva samples, and sometimes blood samples, not against our constitution? what am i just suppose to not work because i choose to participate in a little pot?

and what about when you are forced to put 1 hand up on the wall, and piss into a cup with a guy watching over your shoulder making sure you dont try to do anything fishy? thats cool to?

the worst thing about drug testing is the fact that you really only catch the pot smokers. the crack, meth, heroin (if they can even get to the interview stages) is all gone within 1-3 days. yet the pot smoker has dirty piss for anywhere from 1-4 weeks.

and the fact is, this thread is going to go on, and on about "drug" testing, when in actuality both everyone in this thread, and the companies them selves, know that we are really just being tested for pot because it stays in the system for so long.

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

They can't say oh well Johnny is a good worker so we will let him go, while shitcanning bob who sux ***. It has to be across the board. It has been shown numerous times that they will hit more positive results by getting rid of drug users. Are some good workers lost? yes of course. I had to let a few good guys go before. However you get more riff raff out on this hook. With the tests and policy in place, unemployment doesnt have to be paid either so its a win/win fopr a company.

And as usual the individual gets fcked along with his family. Just for smoking a doobie occasionally. Yet these same people can go to the bar every night after work and get piss faced drunk with no ill done. Fckin moronic.

 

[thatkidbob 10+ year member]

They can't say oh well Johnny is a good worker so we will let him go, while shitcanning bob who sux ***. It has to be across the board. It has been shown numerous times that they will hit more positive results by getting rid of drug users. Are some good workers lost? yes of course. I had to let a few good guys go before. However you get more riff raff out on this hook. With the tests and policy in place, unemployment doesnt have to be paid either so its a win/win fopr a company.

Out of curiousity, which drugs came up in the majority of the failed tests?

 

[SpeakerLuv]

Why not / if it's such a concern to me...then i just wouldn't work at a place that mandates drug testing.

Devil's advocate: What about those who have a prescription? What is defined as a drug? I used to help people come off of anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety drugs, and I much rather would work with someone smoking dope than popping a bunch of klonopin or librium. Besides, pot is pratically legal in California, it is so easy to get a prescription for it here. There are legal dope shops everywhere.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I disagree with drug tests unless theres cause to believe an employee is abusing drugs.

x3. There should at least be some sort of reasonable cause for them to do it. Showing up late to work 4 out of 5 times a week with red puffy eyes and wreaking of marijuana. Then yeah, they are definitely letting drugs affect their work. Get a stoned on the weekend but show up to work every day on time and you are at 100% productivity, then what the **** does it matter?

 

[2002XLT 5,000+ posts]

X2
Also, many other chemicals can cause a false positve on a drug test (poppy seeds for example) So unless the method is 100% i dont see how they can fire someone and ruin their lives for that reason. Especially if the person does their work in a favorable, timely manner.

Quoted, waiting for response....

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

You have a choice though. You can terminate employment with them. It may not seem like a choice in your selfish view of the world, but it is.

He'd just walk out.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Where's my "Don't know, don't care." option?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I think it sucks..as an employee. But looked at from the employer angle its a necessary evil. You can't have tweakers comin down...or even better, tweakin at work. Same goes for people being unproductive because they are hung over at work.

I think people should be able to do whatever they want in their free time, but companies have to have ways to protect themselves when it starts impacting their productivity and/or the safety of their operation.