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[nosaj070 10+ year member]

I have my SS ref 604, its not super old, but I'd say old enough to consider it old school in car audio. I havn't been able to come close to finding any new amp even remotely near the price I paid for it with similar specs (1ohm mono stable and .5ohm stereo stable).

 

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The only PPI amp made that did less than 4 ohms was the PC1400 which pushed a rated load of 800 watts at 2 ohms.(still way underrated)

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dude. no f'n way - i got a pc1400!!

is this the amp you are talking about

i didnt know i could bridge at 2! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

i got it for $150 - what do you think its worth??!

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

A what?

single-ended amplifier technology was developed in the 30's...it was superseded by push-pull and ultralinear designs in the '40s.

Solid state stuff isn't the same as it was back when it was first introduced, either...buffers and oscillators have come a long way //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

dude. no f'n way - i got a pc1400!!
is this the amp you are talking about

i didnt know i could bridge at 2! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

i got it for $150 - what do you think its worth??!

That amp looks all funny with that Red X and all...

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Works for me...

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Works for me...

Well it wasn't working earlier!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[Diplexers 10+ year member]

dude. no f'n way - i got a pc1400!!
is this the amp you are talking about

i didnt know i could bridge at 2! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

i got it for $150 - what do you think its worth??!

Hold on there chief. That one is a later model. The original PC1400 (mono amp) is bridgeable to 2 ohms, not the one you have. Sorry. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[jerseystyle1 10+ year member]

The old PPI stuff is really great stuff and the Older PRO MOS stuff could go lower then 4ohms also. I know what amp you are talking about I think. Did it look like the old M series amp and was about the size of an A1200? In my opinion, old school amps are the best, but like many have said, there is a such thing as old school crap!!! What art series amp are you getting again?

 

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Hold on there chief. That one is a later model. The original PC1400 (mono amp) is bridgeable to 2 ohms, not the one you have. Sorry. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

aw wtf //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

so what the hell is this thing? and whats its power then? i have the "manual"

http://www.asterixband.com/andy/ppipc1400_1800.pdf

says 200x1@4 and 400x1@2

wait a sec. that means my tempest is only getting TWO hundred watts? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[jerseystyle1 10+ year member]

aw wtf //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif
so what the hell is this thing?

Junk! I would be //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif too!

 

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its not junk //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

it wangs the tempest pretty hard.

but they release amps with the same model\name - what the hell is the deal //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[Diplexers 10+ year member]

aw wtf //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif
so what the hell is this thing? and whats its power then? i have the "manual"

http://www.asterixband.com/andy/ppipc1400_1800.pdf

says 200x1@4 and 400x1@2

wait a sec. that means my tempest is only getting TWO hundred watts? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Well its still a PC model so its pushin way more than 200 watts. My PC2150 is rated at 600 ,but its pushing over a 1000 watts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

EDIT: The old model PC1400 did 400 @ 4 ohms, and 800 @ 2 ohms.(rated //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif )

 

[BobUoo 10+ year member]

PPI pc 450 4ch are they a good amp ? asking cause it look like you would have a good idea .

 

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Well its still a PC model so its pushin way more than 200 watts. My PC2150 is rated at 600 ,but its pushing over a 1000 watts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
EDIT: The old model PC1400 did 400 @ 4 ohms, and 800 @ 2 ohms.(rated //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif )

****it, i REALLY dont want to get it benched... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif

 

[Ne1 10+ year member]

I think another part of the problem with reccomending an old school amp is the inherent upkeep that comes with having one. 10 years are a long time for electrical comonents to turn on, heat up, turn off, turn on, heat up, turn off,turn on, heat up, turn off, etc etc.... So chances are a repair will be warranted sooner or later (good luck finding amp repair services if you don't know where to start looking). And like a previous poster said, theres still some good stuff these days, and with warranties to boot!

That having said, I have one ppi 2150 now (old black ones not the .2's) and once I get another one, my xtants may very well be gettin sold on ebay!